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Old 06-03-2004, 09:57 PM   #21
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Good points Matt, the engine would never of survived marketing if its was weak.

The greatest thing about our 3800 motors is the casting. Strong steel lasts along time, if the heads were aluminum we may get more power but they would be punched in a short life.
More power could be acheaved yes, but think of the head gaskets oooh won't someone think of the head gaskets! LOL Issues tend to arise when you have an aluminum head and cast block, just like a few toyotas i know...
Or the 2.2 and 2.5 turbo Chrysler engines in the 1980'* and early 1990'*. Or Ford 3.8'*.
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think of all the cars that GM has put the 3800 in. Have any others had that much widespread use?
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Think about how long the 3800 basic engine has been around then try to think of another engine that has been around that long without MAJOR changes. Chevy small block maby
Gotta love that L67 though!!!!!!!

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true, the L67 avoids the problem of the L36 and the upper intake nicely. I would say its a better engine.
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true, the L67 avoids the problem of the L36 and the upper intake nicely. I would say its a better engine.
SE Owners Unite! Stop the Supercharger Oppression!


LOL contradict much, at least you know your place BEHIND the supercharged cars LOL

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Actually when I had my Regal I wanted a SER 2 N/A motor BAD
Does any of the internals from the SER2 go over to the SER 1 N/A motor???
I always wanted to make my Buick a SER 1/SER 2 franken motor (i.e. have it look just like a SER 1 from the outside but have the internals and power of a SER 2
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true, the L67 avoids the problem of the L36 and the upper intake nicely. I would say its a better engine.
SE Owners Unite! Stop the Supercharger Oppression!


LOL contradict much, at least you know your place BEHIND the supercharged cars LOL

J/K

Actually when I had my Regal I wanted a SER 2 N/A motor BAD
Does any of the internals from the SER2 go over to the SER 1 N/A motor???
I always wanted to make my Buick a SER 1/SER 2 franken motor (i.e. have it look just like a SER 1 from the outside but have the internals and power of a SER 2
Well, the SC eliminates the L36'* worst flaw and gives it more HP/TQ, hard to argue with that...
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I couldn't Imagine trying to work on an engine such as the Northstar 4.0-4.6 and or the Olds Shortstar( Twin Cam 3.5) I'll bet these would be fun as hell..
Family friend (who used to have an '88 SSE up until recently) needed new clutch packs (aftermarket ones used, dealer units just too damn expensive) on a '94 Caddy STS.

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Isn't our 3.8 Blocks capable of more than 350 horsepower without any strengthening? I heard this on another forum. They said it was possible because the 3.8 is the same block as a 350 only with two less cylinders. Is this true?
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Isn't our 3.8 Blocks capable of more than 350 horsepower without any strengthening? I heard this on another forum. They said it was possible because the 3.8 is the same block as a 350 only with two less cylinders. Is this true?

i would really like to know this
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Isn't our 3.8 Blocks capable of more than 350 horsepower without any strengthening? I heard this on another forum. They said it was possible because the 3.8 is the same block as a 350 only with two less cylinders. Is this true?
Maybe the L67, because it has forged parts and strengthened for the boost. My car has 202,000 miles on it and still runs very strong. I can smoke 'em without thinking much about it. When it rains, my car is slow because I can't get any traction Of course, I have the smaller SC pulley now, but even before the change, I was pulling +10 on the boost gauge at 197,000 miles on the engine. Now I'm not sure what I get. Half-throttle will peg the sucker, heheh.
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