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Old 03-16-2005, 06:28 PM   #11
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the speedometer dosent work

the tach dosent work

the compass dosent work

the hud dosent work

the dic dosent work

the electronic ac controls dont work

the power seats dont work

trunk release dosent work

im thinking the fuse box has alot to do with the problems but im not for sure i have ordered a set of FSM'* because i do not have the layout and the position numbers for the fueses in the block ......im gonna change them all out anyway to the ones with the little light on them when they blow just in case there maybe a short somewhere but i can use all the help i can get since im doing this project alone for the most part
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the speedometer dosent work

the tach dosent work

the compass dosent work

the hud dosent work

the dic dosent work

the electronic ac controls dont work

the power seats dont work

trunk release dosent work
Well, _that_ narrows it down... not.

I was starting to wonder whether somebody might have put the gauge cluster back in and forgotten one of the two harness plugs in the back, but that wouldn't have much to do with your power seats and trunk release not working. Now I'm thinking that maybe somebody helped themselves to the fuses and/or circuit breakers and relays.

You've got a tilt-down fusebox under the dash on the driver'* side; has that got a full set of fuses in it? How about the MaxiFuse/Relay Center under the hood on the firewall? There should be a row of... um... (pause to look at the manual again) eight relay sockets in a row, although one or two may not be used. Above that is a row of MaxiFuses, which look like the ones under the dash only twice the size. If someone scarfed up all those, you'd have an extremely dead car.
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Old 03-17-2005, 11:51 AM   #13
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all the fuses look to be there wether they work or not is up to me testing them with a multi meter ( ya i know i can look at the bus fuses and see if they are good or not but i rather test them its faster for me ) then the next step after that is to either go to the library to see if they have a fsm or just kick back and wait till my set comes in when that comes in i get to go buy all new fuses for both boxes ....... im also gonna need a set of window motors for all 4 doors i tested the old ones with a power set and they are weak and act like they dont want to work the power seats work fine on the power set but i im pulling them out anyway to have them recovered over the next 8 days so thats how long i have to figure out this dash and power problem
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all the fuses look to be there wether they work or not is up to me testing them with a multi meter ( ya i know i can look at the bus fuses and see if they are good or not but i rather test them its faster for me ) then the next step after that is to either go to the library to see if they have a fsm or just kick back and wait till my set comes in
Wait for the manuals. Lots of fascinating reading in there.

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when that comes in i get to go buy all new fuses for both boxes
Why? They're either good or they're blown. If they're good, save your money.

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....... im also gonna need a set of window motors for all 4 doors i tested the old ones with a power set and they are weak and act like they dont want to work
Again, I really doubt you need all four motors; I wouldn't necessarily assume you even need one yet. Window motors draw major juice; I think they're on a 30-amp breaker circuit, so unless your external power supply is solidly connected and capable of putting out high amperage, I would wait until you get the rest of the car fixed first. If they work at all right now, you can save your money for more urgent stuff.

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the power seats work fine on the power set
That kind of figures; the seat motors are geared down and have a slightly lower draw than the power windows.

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but i im pulling them out anyway to have them recovered over the next 8 days so thats how long i have to figure out this dash and power problem
The FSMs even have a section on how to recover your own seats, if you feel enterprising.
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oh the seats arent something im gonna want to so there is alot of reconstruction to the foam and the application of the new material i have a guy that is gonna do a custom fit carpet both front buckets back seat headliner sun visors floor mats door panels trunk carpet and trunk lid liner for 700 dollars it should look good .....i had a friend that used the same guy to do his lowrider with a pillow top interior and he won at the houston custom auto show so i know he does good work the fsm'* should be ariving in the next few days but as soon as i get my digital camers back from my roomie ill take pics of the car and ill make a website showing the progression of the project .....i have asked my dad to help also ....i was gonna do it alone but he was always sticking his nose into it anyway so i asked him if he wanted to help and he said yes ......he isnt used to "hi-tech" cars just older muscle cars but i will definately need help from experts like yall
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ok i have figured out the speedo the tach and the hud .........the dic dosent work and the compas or the volt guage fuel guage boost guage temp guage and oil pressure need help on this now also the radio dosent work but it is getting power .....the ac controls show they have power but they dont work .....also can anyone provide me with the fuse position in the block with the size fuse and what it goes to for all fuses please i need help bad the car is a 1992 bonneville sse
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ok i have figured out the speedo the tach and the hud .........the dic dosent work and the compas or the volt guage fuel guage boost guage temp guage and oil pressure need help on this
Has anyone had the gauge cluster out at some point? I'm curious about whether there'* only one harness plug put back in right. There is a second one behind the gauges on the right; maybe somebody forgot that one...?

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now also the radio dosent work but it is getting power .....the ac controls show they have power but they dont work .....also can anyone provide me with the fuse position in the block with the size fuse and what it goes to for all fuses please
That'* given in the owner'* manual. If you don't have one in the glove box, I have the '93 edition in PDF form on my office machine (and probably somebody else around here can send you a copy). I can send you my copy but it'll be Monday before I can reach it...
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thanks andy i would greatly appriciate the info you have as with all the info given to my from this club this isnt gonna be a cake walk like i expected but monday would be cool if you could do that for me .....ad as usual i diddnt get a manual in my glove box ......used car lots ......go figure lol
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and as usual i diddnt get a manual in my glove box ......used car lots ......go figure lol
More likely the previous owners brought it into the house to read, never did read it, then lost it altogether. Anyhow, if you want to score a used copy pretty cheap, there'* this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7958141151

(...and several other auctions, too...)
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ok the dic will not work and neither will the compass or the guages the speedo and the tach will work but nothing else
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