Okay I will give it a shot. I have a feeling that when the guy disconnected the battery for a long time, it de-programmed everything because the remote starter won't work either but that is another story and will be a tougher fix since the starter was put in in Quebec by the looks of it so I can't really take it back to get it looked at!

I am going to try the remote for my 99 since I put the battery from the 97 in that remote when I switched them. If the 99 opens okay, I know it is not the battery that was the problem it is not programmed right.

I will try it when I get my 97 back from the garage. Just hope I don't fry everything!

Okay now that I got my 97 back I want to try this but don't want to blow up the car either!

I did look at your diagram Dan but under my dash is one big mess of fuses and stuff.







Hope these help. Is it the empty things at the top that I want or the actual fuses cause they don't correspond to my fuse diagram, nothing about OBDII for 4 or 8.

Can someone help me?

That'* not the OBD plug. the plug is under the steering column.

Dan,

Sorry my bad! I did find it.



I tried to put a paper clip in there but it won't stay in place. Now do I have this right that the two ports have to be connected together. This is not just put one end in #8 and one end #4? They have to be connected together somehow?

I am getting the general gist of this but can't get the clip to stay in place! HELP AGAIN PLEASE!

I took my car to the dealer and they found that both remotes were broken. They fixed one but only the panic button will work so she said I need a new remote. They wanted $130.00 for a new one, I told them to go fly a kite!

So for now I am keying it I guess. It'* not that bad I guess. If I can find a used one I may do that. I don't want to order off Original Keyless because they ship out of the states and who knows if I will have to pay tax, duty etc on it when it comes. Knowing our government the answer woud be yes!

Are you sure the switch contacts are not dirty?

It'* probably a good idea to do the following:

1) Open the remote and remove membrane pad.
2) Use contact cleaner on the copper contacts. (A can of MAF sensor cleaner works great, and it'* good to have on hand for cleaning your MAF sensor once a year too.)
3) Clean the black rubber contacts on the membrane. I even took some find sandpaper to mine to make sure the surface was perfectly flat, then used the cleaner. Don't go overboard with the sandpaper.
4) Reassemble, then try the remote again. If it still doesn't work, you will have to reprogram it according to the writeup.

BTW, after cleaning the contacts on my old remote, it works better than the new one I got for my wife. I guess I'd better clean hers too.

Well the dealer tried to fix the remote with soldering and everything so I would assume they cleaned everything and all that too before trying it. Like I said, the panic button works so there is some signal going to from the remote to the car but nothing to unlock the doors.

I will get a remote eventually. Until than I will just deal with opening by hand! People did in the "olden days" so why can't I do it now?

Don't assume. Some of these dealer techs don't necessarily know how to trouble shoot properly. I've fixed several probs that dealer'* haven't been able to fix. Two examples:

1) power passenger seat fix attempted by dealer 2-3 X. I finally found a bullet connection had pushed out the female end. My fix corrected the problem.

2) lugging/knocking under load with tranny lockup. Dealer never solved problem, even admitted so. I found out years later after searching TSBs that the MAF needs frequent cleaning. Problem solved.

I'm not trying to say I know better than the dealer. It'* just that sometimes the tech is under pressure from his boss to fix it quickly and get onto other jobs.

The fact that the panic button works supports that the buttons may have needed cleaning. The panic button is rarely used so it rarely gets dirty. I'm just saying its worth a shot.

Well true enough!

I mean I can live without it as I am not good at doing stuff like that. Computing I am good at, auto mechanics... not so much! I took all business courses in school, not auto mechanics!

ETA: Where do you get this cleaner from? Canadian Tire sell it???

I got mine at NAPA. I only use Canadian Tire if I'm desperate or really really cheap.

Where are you? You mentioned Canadian Tire. I know that could mean anything from 5 minutes away to 6 hours by plane.

Anyway, you'd be surprised how easy it is to clean those remotes. Once you get started you'll want to do the same thing on your TV remotes, portable phones. You'll go crazy cleaning! I just cleaned my wife'* remote last night (6 months old) and it works better than it did new.

It sounds like you'll still have to reprogram the remote to the car according to Danthur'* instructions.