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Old 09-28-2005, 12:43 PM   #1
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Default Horn relay location ? ? ?

Ok,
I have both the Haynes, and the Chilton manuals.
Neither list the solution to this question.
I then searched this topic here, and in the 92-99 forum and came up with one
{non-relevant} hit, and even its pic was a dead link. (Sigh)


Car failed State Safety inspection, for having a "non audible [email protected] 200 feet"
I have 30 days to repair and have it reinspected.
fuse is good. no corrosion at horns, etc.
I suspect an "open" in coil circuit... can test by substitution,
or with VOM. [volt/ohm meter]

I found the relay diagram, on page 6-56 of the Chilton,
but it gives no location.
However, it is a SPST [single pole - single throw] relay
and wire colors are :
  • Green, to horns
    Black, to horn switch
    Orange, to +12VDC

Anyone have a photo, of which relay, in what bank, [engine bay, or Under dash)
for my application?
It would make things a whole lot easier for this old man,
than trying to contort my body on my back, and upside down,
trying to find wire colors... and stick a meter on them.

TIA !


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The horns ground through the mounting bolt. I'd suspect a poor ground before a relay but here'* your pic:

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PS. Haynes manuals suck. See if you can't score a factory service manual on Ebay or here for about $40. That would be a pretty good price.
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The horns ground through the mounting bolt. I'd suspect a poor ground before a relay :

PS. Haynes manuals suck. See if you can't score a factory service manual on Ebay or here for about $40. That would be a pretty good price.
Thanks for the effort Randman1 !

Yep! They sure do!! I'll never buy another Haynes! Had one for my Jags,
when I was a noob there years ago. forgot about how bad they sucked,
cause I soon got their factory CD, for $35.

Have been looking for a factory manual now for the past two weeks.
I'm Willing to go for the $40...
I've seen them, on eBay, but for outrageous prices... $90, and above.
Don't want to go that high for a book, just yet...

I had the steeringl column apart last weekend, to replace the
wiper switch/mounting mechanism..... for the Multi Purpose lever.
Yes I too, would suspect a poor gnd, before a relay...... But...
!!!!! I know I replaced, ......the horn wire with the spring load in the little socket... !!!

Not looking forward to pulling the PITA air bag again. May have to though,
if it isn't a bad gnd, or the relay.....I Just want to eliminate all the easier areas first.
I don't know if it worked before i pulled the wheel or not. Just got the car, and never use the horn anyway.
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93 Bonneville shop manual is $105 from helminc.com.

That'* why the ebay price is $90 (wished for). For $90 I should start listing some of my old shop manuals.
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93 Bonneville shop manual is $105 from helminc.com.

That'* why the ebay price is $90 (wished for). For $90 I should start listing some of my old shop manuals.
That seems insanely high!

95'* were 40ish
97'* were 80ish I think
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I'll confirm the Helm price.
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Holy Hannah!

What are they printed on? Parchment made from lumber of Noah'* Ark?
Do they use platinum based ink?
Are they bound in gold thread?

This Inquiring mind wants to know....

Yeah....... supply and demand... Ha!
Well then, I demand they supply more than enough, and cheaper too
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there is 2 or 3 Sets of 93 Books on ebay right now...

I have the FSM'* and they are invaluable
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Well worth the 100 new. EVERYTHING is coverd. More than you can possible imagine.
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Well worth the 100 new. EVERYTHING is coverd. More than you can possible imagine.
Just picked up the two volumes on E-bay.... slightly greasy fingersmudges on the cover,
but otherwise OK... Only 45 bananas....

Also picked up 2 din radio/cass/CD player, from an Olds...
Will be cuttin the surround, and modding to fit...
Next week, begins my vacation, and I'll be hitting the auto recyclers in the area,
(there'* about 10 of them near by, 5 within seven miles...)
hopefully, I'll find a useable woodgrain surround..w/o HUD...or gain control.
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