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Old 12-02-2005, 06:11 PM
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Hey, good to see you too!

I just went to the GM dealer here in town (stampede pontiac) and they wanted $400 to install the headlamp switch, $345 for the switch and rest labour!

What the hey!!! $350 for a stupid light switch? Because it is the one for daytime sensor, the price is nutzo. -

Didn't find a switch in gmpartsdirect.com either

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Oh, just checked gmpartdirect.com, they dont' ship to Canada

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Gadzooks, the headlamp switch costs $400+ to get it installed.

Talk about a time warp, the last headlight switch I had to purchase was way back for my '75 Buick Lesabre was $35...

Originally Posted by willwren
There is no module. All the function is built into the switch, with input from the flat photocell to the left side of the HUD.

If the photocell goes out, it affects both lights.

I strongly suspect your switch.

Try www.gmpartsdirect.com
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Our headlight switches are cheaper than $75. Look at the other topic we had going last week. All the part numbers are there.

Then try www.acdelco.com

I believe they'll ship to
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Hmmm....I just checked my book, and I believe they quoted you parts for DRL. We need clarification on their diagnosis.

I show for a 94 (Canada):

Module, DRL: 25624030 $107 US at GMPD (for reference)
Sensor, DRL: 914032 $26.75

Your headlamp switch is:
Add w/o Auto Headlamps 1995389 $40.33
Add w/Auto Headlamps 1995405 $98.52
Keep in mind these are US prices shown at a 40% discount.

My advice at this point is to dig into the schematics and factory service manuals and properly diagnose the faulty component as either DRL related or switch related.

THEN we'll locate you a good part at a wrecker in the US.
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Default Hey thanks for the help!

Ok, maybe this might help narrow down what the problem/part is, as I don't have a manual

'94 Bonneville, made in US but sold in Canada
4 door SE, 3.8L not turbo
Serial 1G2HX52L6R42 XXXXXX - not sure if suppose to post serial #
Comes with Daytime running lights and auto sensor on dash to turn on at dusk, no HUD.
Also on the switch dash plate, can regulate how long lights stay on after car turns off.

Situation:
- Doesn't happen right away and only affects headlights. Dash, turn, marker, tail lights are all ok.
- Can pull out/turn on lights and doesn't make a difference, only that the other lights (marker, tail, etc) come on.
- Doesn't matter, daylight or dark.
- Highbeams work at night with lights on auto or if I pull/turn on the switch.
- I'd be driving along after about 30 mins just the headlights start flicking, and if I unplug one of the headlights, the other stays on like normal. So I'm driving around with one headlight right now.

So if it was a short in the switch, wouldn't all the lights flicker and happen right away? Which makes me believe it has to do something with the daylight sensor and a heat issue.

You can get this for $100? That'* a far cry from what they're trying to soak me at the GM dealership, I'd get one right away. I think the #1995405 is what I need.

Also, how muich is a left fog lamp? Mine is cracked, so I got clear tape on it for now...duct tape seems to block the light

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(maybe I should post a picture/short video of the car showing the how the lights wigwag? Might do that and post it on my site...)

Originally Posted by willwren
Hmmm....I just checked my book, and I believe they quoted you parts for DRL. We need clarification on their diagnosis.

I show for a 94 (Canada):

Module, DRL: 25624030 $107 US at GMPD (for reference)
Sensor, DRL: 914032 $26.75

Your headlamp switch is:
Add w/o Auto Headlamps 1995389 $40.33
Add w/Auto Headlamps 1995405 $98.52
Keep in mind these are US prices shown at a 40% discount.

My advice at this point is to dig into the schematics and factory service manuals and properly diagnose the faulty component as either DRL related or switch related.

THEN we'll locate you a good part at a wrecker in the US.
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I've hooked both of my headlights again - if you recall my headlights started flickering, almost like a cop wigwags, but both flickering at the same time. So I unplugged one headlamp and the other stayed on as normal.

I just hooked both back on again and drove around for about a 1/2 hour and they worked fine, but the last time I was on the highway for about 45mins, so will try that again to see if they wigwag.

I also just got back from a 2 hour drive to Lethbridge at night and the one light didn't flicker either, which has me wondering if it is the switch and heat issue, why doesn't the one light flicker also?

Weird how only the DRL'* flash and not the rest of the tail lights, markers, and corner lights.

And you guys say there isn't a module for the DRL right? Is it within the switch maybe that is causing the issue. The stupid thing costs $357 up here!!! So I want to make sure it is the switch before buying it and finding out it could be some stupid relay somewhere.

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Not entirely sure about 95'*, but if a DRL relay does exist, check it out or replace. It may be a lazy relay, or chattering.
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Well for starters it is a '94. No problem.

Also, I was told there isn't a module. I wanted a second opinion, not a guess.

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Originally Posted by tomax7
I wanted a second opinion, not a guess.
Tom, I was just offering some very generalized info, ideas. This is a unique problem at best, and to troubleshoot across the internet makes it even more abstract. When you say wig wag, does that mean the low beams alternately flicker on & off? Now they both flicker on & off simultaneously?
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Situation:
- I'd be driving along after about 30 mins just the headlights start flicking, and if I unplug one of the headlights, the other stays on like normal. So I'm driving around with one headlight right now.
- Doesn't happen right away and only affects headlights. Dash, turn, marker, tail lights are all ok.
- Can pull out/turn on lights and doesn't make a difference, only that the other lights (marker, tail, etc) come on.
- Doesn't matter, daylight or dark.
- Highbeams work at night with lights on auto or if I pull/turn on the switch.

So if it was a short in the switch, wouldn't all the lights flicker and happen right away? Which makes me believe it has to do something with the daylight sensor and a heat issue.


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Originally Posted by tomax7
I wanted a second opinion, not a guess.
Tom, I was just offering some very generalized info, ideas. This is a unique problem at best, and to troubleshoot across the internet makes it even more abstract. When you say wig wag, does that mean the low beams alternately flicker on & off?
Now they both flicker on & off simultaneously?


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