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Old 10-10-2006, 11:02 AM   #21
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I used soap before, and many others have as well. I will cut the clay into three pieces, and one piece is only going to last one or two applications due to all the contaminants that get in the clay, so I don't think degridation from the soap is an issue. As far as my last occurance from the picture, either the clay had a problem in the making where it was too abrasive, or I had stuff in the clay that unknowingly scratched the surface.
I was just quoting what came from a site dedicated to best-practice detailing methods. They didn't say you couldn't use soap as a lubricant, just that it isn't as good.
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No problem. Another good site is Autopia.org. There are a lot more detailing enthusiasts on there that know a lot of stuff.
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Autopia is a good site too. I bought Sonus polishes from them.

I made the mistake this year of going from a claybar straight to LG. Not a good idea, since LG only seals the paint. Just recently I went over my hood with a pre-wax cleaner, 3 stages of polish, then a glaze, then LG, and it was great. No clay was necessary since it was done not too long ago. The shine and smoothness are great.

It'* very important to use something to polish and glaze the paint after a claybar to really keep the paint looking healthy.
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Autopia is a good site too. I bought Sonus polishes from them.

I made the mistake this year of going from a claybar straight to LG. Not a good idea, since LG only seals the paint. Just recently I went over my hood with a pre-wax cleaner, 3 stages of polish, then a glaze, then LG, and it was great. No clay was necessary since it was done not too long ago. The shine and smoothness are great.

It'* very important to use something to polish and glaze the paint after a claybar to really keep the paint looking healthy.
Autopia has a great detailing forum aswell!
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Autopia is a good site too. I bought Sonus polishes from them.

I made the mistake this year of going from a claybar straight to LG. Not a good idea, since LG only seals the paint. Just recently I went over my hood with a pre-wax cleaner, 3 stages of polish, then a glaze, then LG, and it was great. No clay was necessary since it was done not too long ago. The shine and smoothness are great.

It'* very important to use something to polish and glaze the paint after a claybar to really keep the paint looking healthy.
Wish I knew this on Sunday... I thought LG was the polish/sealer all you needed in one bottle type of product.
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Yeah, you need polish to remove the paint defects (scratches/swirls). A glaze will help hide any defects that you can't remove. Then you use something to protect the paint in a sealant and/or wax, which is where the Liquid Glass comes in. I think the Meg'* #2 Polish in their three step system is OK if you are doing it by hand. I have been using that in the past. But a polisher and some professional grade polish makes a HUGE difference as I can attest to after using it for the first time.
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Wish I knew this on Sunday... I thought LG was the polish/sealer all you needed in one bottle type of product.
It might say polish on it, but it really isn't a true polish. Polishes are abrasive, and LG is not. It is a polymer sealant, one of many kinds on the market.
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Autopia is a good site too. I bought Sonus polishes from them.

I made the mistake this year of going from a claybar straight to LG. Not a good idea, since LG only seals the paint. Just recently I went over my hood with a pre-wax cleaner, 3 stages of polish, then a glaze, then LG, and it was great. No clay was necessary since it was done not too long ago. The shine and smoothness are great.

It'* very important to use something to polish and glaze the paint after a claybar to really keep the paint looking healthy.
Wish I knew this on Sunday... I thought LG was the polish/sealer all you needed in one bottle type of product.
I thought you were taught better at NEBF in April. Polishing is where it is at. Almost any wax or sealant will look great on a properly polished car.
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yeah but her car shines enough that it really doesn't NEED to be polished every time she waxs it (or puts a polymer protectant coat on it, if you want to be all technical about LG)
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yeah but her car shines enough that it really doesn't NEED to be polished every time she waxs it (or puts a polymer protectant coat on it, if you want to be all technical about LG)
True. That is why LG is popular as it hides swirl marks and holograms in the finish.
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