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Old 07-13-2005, 04:07 PM   #1
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Default Rust Proofing... Why I am ticked!

The local Zebart undercoated my Bonnie SLE, they sure did. Drove it home put it in the driveway and was upset I found tar on my lovely stainless steal exhaust tips and dirty chrome rims... My oh my what a job they did at nearly 500 bucks they should have kept the darn car clean. Thats the way life is you would swear none of the people working there actually own a nice car, and don't understand how someone as particular as me sends there car in (flawless) and wants it back out (flawless) Not to metion the small rip chip on my Front driverside rim (on the ring) more like a mark. I am just a little ticked b/c it cost so much and they didn't clean up your car that well! Although they did spary a nice thick layer of rustproofing and undercoating on it! I never paid them to clean my car might be there excuse Somedays... So then I busted out the detailer and F2K1 and went back to work, not to metion the bug and tar remover I used (a ton), somethings never change
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I'll never undercoat a car, not even if its brand new.

The best rust provention is car care.

My old '94 Intrepid with over 170k miles on it had ZERO rust on the body after 10 years and all those miles in NY. The underbody was either primer gray or body color (red). The only rust was on suspension components that don't get undercoated anyway.

Many times undercoating will trap moisture and cause more problems than if the car were just left to proper car care.

And about the quality of the job. You can't find good help/work anywhere anymore. It'* rediculous. If I can't do something myself, I only take my vehicles to trusted shops.
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Nope, no water out or in... The problems arrise in the process through which they lay down the undercoating. Many places power wash the underbody off before they lay down the undercoating. The problem with this is, they don't allow anywhere near enough time for the water to completely dry out of all of the nooks and crannies in the undercarriage. Once the undercoating is on there, the water has no place to go.

My Bravada is still clean as a whistle underneith (2000 & 75k miles of NY weather and salt).

Also, I do not think that the factory 10yr/100,000mile rust through warranty is any good for a vehicle that has been undercoated. Please someone correct me if I am wrong in that statement...
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Well it saved my old Deville, I am a beleiver! I am in IOWA and trust me we get alot of road salt thats why I do it!
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Well it saved my old Deville, I am a beleiver! I am in IOWA and trust me we get alot of road salt thats why I do it!
And corn......

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Nope, no water out or in... The problems arrise in the process through which they lay down the undercoating. Many places power wash the underbody off before they lay down the undercoating. The problem with this is, they don't allow anywhere near enough time for the water to completely dry out of all of the nooks and crannies in the undercarriage. Once the undercoating is on there, the water has no place to go.

My Bravada is still clean as a whistle underneith (2000 & 75k miles of NY weather and salt).

Also, I do not think that the factory 10yr/100,000mile rust through warranty is any good for a vehicle that has been undercoated. Please someone correct me if I am wrong in that statement...
Good points. I was actually thinking about undercoating my car. (I'm in Syracuse..."Salt City") Except I was going to do it myself. I do also have a lifetime rust-through warranty. I have some device they hooked up to the battery that sends electrical charges throught the metal...etc etc...basically guarantees the car never to rust. I was skeptical about it, but any rust will be fixed if I ever get any. I not only would undercoat the car to keep it clean and rust-free, but also for sound deadening, since there'* a good amount of road noise throught the interior.

Maybe I'll just do the wheel wells so they look cleaner, and are easier to keep clean.
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Thats not a bad idea! Good luck!
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I have had rust check done on my bonnie since it was born in 1995, anybody in canada find out where one is its the best way no rust on my baby.

check it out

http://www.rustcheck.com/
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The only time I would recommend rust proofing a car is when it is brand new before any dirt or water has contacted the surfaces.
That way it will last forever.
As soon as it gets the least bit dirty, you will not get adhesion.

My 79 T/A was originally Zebarted and the body has no corrosion. The undercoating is all intact after even 26 years.

Yes it does make a mess. Most shops do not take the time to mask off components from overspray.
If you were aware, you could have done the masking yourself.
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True a 79 Trans Am eh? My buddy has a gold 79 w/ a 427cid. Chevy Impala motor and twin holley 4bbls! Oh and it runs the 1/4 mile in well under 11 seconds and makes an estimated 675hp w/o NOS!
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