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Old 02-09-2004, 08:46 PM   #1
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Ok,

I've done the 3 phase wax system several times to my cars.
But I've noticed 2 new Mother'* products and I'm not sure where they fit into the wax system order.

The 3 phase system is
1 - Pre-wax Cleaner
2 - Seal & Glaze
3 - Carnauba Wax

Where does "Reflections Clear Coat Polish/Wax" fit into that system?
What about "Carnauba Cleaner Wax"?
and while we are trying to put these products into a type of system, what about the clay bar?

I realize you do the 3 phase system all at once, but when should you do the other stuff?

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Ok,

I've done the 3 phase wax system several times to my cars.
But I've noticed 2 new Mother'* products and I'm not sure where they fit into the wax system order.

The 3 phase system is
1 - Pre-wax Cleaner
2 - Seal & Glaze
3 - Carnauba Wax

Where does "Reflections Clear Coat Polish/Wax" fit into that system?
What about "Carnauba Cleaner Wax"?
and while we are trying to put these products into a type of system, what about the clay bar?

I realize you do the 3 phase system all at once, but when should you do the other stuff?

Thanks
I use Mothers too, but I don't really use those other products besides the 3 phase wax system and claybar. The 'Cleaner Wax' is almost like the Step 1 of the 3 stage process. That Clear Coat Polish is probably just an in-between product you'd use to maintain the shine between waxing. And the 3 stage system basically does the job of the claybar. You don't really NEED the claybar unless you have a ton of embedded dirt and stuff in your paint. Because step 1 gets all of that stuff off your paint (unless you have dirt that'* been setting on your paint for a long time).

If you were to use the claybar, I'd wash and dry the car first, then apply stage 1 of the 3 phase system. Then clay it. Then finish with step 2 & 3.
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I always thought Phase 1 was to remove all the old wax and bring it down to the clear coat.

So I was kind of confused with the "Cleaner Wax".

I'm thinking what you do is the 3 phase system.
Then every so often the Cleaner Wax and/or Relections.
Topping off w/ the odd clay bar & the Carnauba Wax every blue moon.
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I always thought Phase 1 was to remove all the old wax and bring it down to the clear coat.

So I was kind of confused with the "Cleaner Wax".

I'm thinking what you do is the 3 phase system.
Then every so often the Cleaner Wax and/or Relections.
Topping off w/ the odd clay bar & the Carnauba Wax every blue moon.
Yup. Phase 1 removes old wax too. It also (allegedly) removes light oxidation. But I have what is considered a light oxidation spot, and Phase 1 doesn't get rid of it, just makes it much less noticeable for a few months.

It removes embedded dirt particles, etc, which in turn leave just the clearcoat. Bug and Tar Remover is almost like Phase 1, because it cleans the same way, and it removes wax too.

You should have no problem keeping your black beauties clean.
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Is there anyway one could get overly carried away and mistakenly mess up their paint job doing this??? just want to know...since this is what I hope to be doing as soon as the temp is over 50* here
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I dont think so...the products are natural and if would go against the company to make stuff that would damage yer car

At least thats the hope

things like Carnuba wax etc is natural no?
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Just follow the directions and you should be fine.

Never do it during a hot day, make sure your paint is cool to the touch, and try to do it in the shade whenever possible. These rules apply esp to black (dark) paints... it will bake right on making it very hard to get off.

The ideal spot is to do it in your garage. Or in my case, underground parking. I was tallking to my friend who is a pilot, and he takes his car inside a hanger at the airport to do it. hehe
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it will bake right on making it very hard to get off.
Ugh ive had that happen on my old car i the sun! it was a pain in the ***, had to re pressure wash the hood and roof!
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