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Old 07-03-2006, 05:35 AM   #1
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If I want to do liquid glass, If I understand right from a thread earlier, you must clay bar the car before you glass it? I have a few questions.

Do you go over every inch of the exterior of the car, or just small sections? Is it big? What is there to expect after clay barring? how much does it cost? what'* the best method of use? HOW do i do it? i'd like to know all the details. i'm curious. Someone with knowledge tell me?
i'm not knowledgable in this stuff.. i wanna know about it.
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it is advisable to clay in small sections of your car at a time. It is not expensive, you can get a clay bar and lubricant at almost any auto parts store. As for the LG, wren, boost, or MOS will help yah since they are the experts
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I did not clay bar mine before LGing. As a matter of fact, it'* been almost a year since the LG, and you can still see the shine.

If you want to clay bar, definitely do it. The cleaner you get it before hand, the better it will lok, and the longer it will last.
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Eric:
Here is a link for the actual process.

http://www.adamspolishes.com/videos/clay_bar.cfm

It is well worth the time to claybar. You may also want to use Sxratch X to remove swirls after claying.

Take this on as a weekend project and have fun with it. I would advise to do the work in a garage or under cover and not in direct sunlight.
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I detailed my bonnie this past Saturday. Had wanted to do this for some time now. Not that difficult, mostly elbow grease.

Good advice to read everything here in the forums, coupla really good threads with great advice.

I first washed with strong dishwashing detergent, then claybarred, then the Liquid Glass, beautiful. I also attacked every square inch of the interior while I was at it.

Spent about 4 plus hours doing this. Lotsa work, but a great sense of accomplishment when I was done. Car looks great.

One piece of advice I kept hearing over and over again was to cut the claybar in half (at least) and use one half at a time. Boy, was that a GOOD idea. I was about half way done when that slippery little sucka flew out of my hand and landed in all the dirt and grime I had just washed off the car. Luckily, I had my other half ready to go and easily finished the job.

The only problem I had was that no sooner had I finished, it started to rain, how'* that for luck. Not complaining though, we really needed the rain and after it stopped, I could really see what a good finish I had on the car.

A quick question for the experts. Do you guys recommend an additional coat of a good wax or polish after the LG. I am planning to put another coat of the LG this weekend after the first coat has had some time to "cure" in the sun.

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I have at times used other waxes over the LG, but it'* pointless. The LG goes on and off easier, and leaves a better finish. It also prevents you from having to strip wax if you ever want to LG again.

I've never claybarred either of my cars, and I see no diffeence in finish between the 3 year old paint over the left side and top of the Zilla, and the older OEM paint after LG. Dishwashing detergent works great, and I typically wash twice in a row with it before LG.

If you want to claybar, by all means try it. But it'* not totally necessary. I doubt you'd be able to tell the difference unless you were looking for it, and only did one panel or so.
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I always claybar once a year. I do it because it removes more dirt and crud from your paint than any soap out there. You'd be amazed what you can pull off of your paint even after multiple washes. It makes for a good surface to polish, and it really only needs to be done once a year. Once the LG is on, it'* on for a long time, so you don't need to worry about claying multiple times a year.

I do it in the springtime after the long Michigan winter before I start detailing.

You can find these clay kits at most auto stores. Mothers or Mequiars will be fine. I use the Mothers kit. You'll get Detailer Spray included which will be needed when claying. That particular kit costs about $15. It is well worth it.
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Yeh, I agree w/ Sol. I had put a pretty good cleaning on my car before the claybar, but that blue piece of clay was pretty dirty when I was done.

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After you clay the car, what is the next step? Just start waxing it immediately, or do you have to do anything between claying and waxing?
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After you clay the car, what is the next step? Just start waxing it immediately, or do you have to do anything between claying and waxing?
After claying you should polish the car then wax. However if you are satisfied with the finish of the paint you could go ahead and wax at this point.
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