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Old 04-13-2008, 01:32 PM   #1
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Well, I have to say I am VERY impressed with all the new detailing products I recently bought, but now I need more

I picked up a bottle of Four Star Ultimate Wheel Cleaner Gel I was very happy with that, but at $18 a bottle for only 16 oz, it only lasted for four cars. It did work VERY good though.

I am now looking for something else to try. Here are some other products I am considering.

DP Gel Wheel Cleaner
Poorboy* World Spray and Rinse Wheel Cleaner 32 oz

I have heard sooo many good things about P21S Wheel Cleaners, they seem quite expensive also like the Four Star, so I am looking for something a little cheaper.
I have also seen great reviews on Meguiars Wheel Brightener, but it is an acid based cleaner and many say it is some dangerous stuff.


One major question I have is about the PB *&R, from what I understand about it is that it is also an acid based cleaner, but it is a citric acid based, which is not the same acid base as the Megs wheel brightener from what I understand. Any idea as to if it would be safer then the wheel brightener?
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I am going to go with the Meg'* WB on the next order.
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What have you been using untill now?
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Eagle one wheel & tire cleaner. It works well but I have been a bit gunshy with it ever since a friend used it on a hot dry wheel and it etched the whole thing. I buffed the wheels out and they are fine but I hate to use this stuff on customer car'* and have that problem. The cleaner has never been a problem on a cool, wet wheel though. I need something in a large quantity and I have heard great reviews about the Meg'* WB.
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I have used some of Eagle 1'* products and I can honestly say I think their wheel cleaners are junk. The main reason I want something more powerful that isn't available OTC. EVERY OTC wheel cleaner I have tried has left me very disappointed. I was extremely happy with the Four Star from autogeek, but the price is pretty steep.

I don't want something that I have to scrub for an hour for each wheel. The Four Star was very easy.... spray on, wait 30 seconds, agitate with a soft brush, spray off. results were great. That is what I am looking for.
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You didn't think the EO W&T cleaner was strong enough? My complaint was that it may have been too strong. Either way, I am looking for a new cleaner as well. I really think that the bulk WB is the answer. I hope to get a lot of business this summer and I'll need a lot of product. Another detailing note, my 4" LC CCS yellow pad is starting to fall apart. It is the only one that is giving me issues though.
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I have been VERY interested in the Megs WB, but like I said earlier, I am not so sure about the acid...

I already have at least 15 cars to do, and word is going around fast and I am gaining tons of interest. Like I said before though, I am doing this dirt cheap, but at the same time spending the time and using the right products to do a pro job. Right now is more about gaining experience and getting my work out there. I am however letting everyone know right now that my prices will go up eventually and they $50 exterior detail will not last forever and they all are ok with that.
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I am taking a similar approach as you. Only I started out at $75 and am moving up to $100-$125. I can't do the level of correction I want to do for that cheap. I really would like to work my way in to the high-end market where I will be allowed more time and more money to be more, well, more detailed with the job. Plus, when you work for cheap, you get TRASHED cars. Hail damage and oxidation galore. My little UDM can't keep up.
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I hear ya. I am very happy with my UDM though

I actually enjoy getting trashed cars right now because it allows me to understand the level of correction I can achieve with my polishes and UDM. I have been thinking of picking up some yellow pads and some Menz Power Gloss compound for the really rough jobs. I have also found that most cars I will do I need to just jump right to orange pad and SIP as the white pad with SIP or FP II doesn't cut enough....

Here is the topic I have going on autogeek, but it really isn't getting me anywhere http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...l-cleaner.html Off topic like crazy and nobody seems to want to answer my question about the safety of the citric acid vs. the acid base for the Meg'* WB.

Everyone keeps telling me to try P21s, but I really don't want to use $5 worth of wheel cleaner on every car. I want something a little more powerful as most of the cars I will be doing are higher mileage and have probably never been polished up or wheels really cleaned. You know the cars.... coin - op car wash once a week or so
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Ryan:
Let me check when I get home tonight and see what I use on an as needed basis. Usually I just wash at the end of the car wash with a dedicated cotton mitt then apply Zaino tire dressing. It works for me.

Unfortunately your road lends itself to dirty tires and you do need a cleaner that works and is not caustic.

For a long time I used Westley'* Bleche White but I found that it was too caustic and was removing some of the lubricants imbedded in the tire. The tires actually started to take on a brown tint. I do not know if lubricants is the correct term but there are materials added to the tire compound to control the aging process of the tire.

I think I am using Eagle 1 in an orange pump bottle. If you are using something different and like it let me know.


BTY:

THE DETAIL BUG HAS YOU. So far no known cure.
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