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Old 03-17-2014, 08:04 PM   #1
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I did a motor transplant in my 80 El Camino. 327w/ 350 heads 350 turbo trans. also a new holley carb. when I stomp it in 1st or 2nd it runs awesome. But if you drive it normally in (D) drive it shakes and backfires..The only thing I am unsure of is, I made a throttle and kickdown cable mounts and maybe its (kickdown cable) not correct Im at a loss. Any Transmission guys Know???

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Shakes and backfires sounds more like a miss. I would look for a cracked plug or bad plug wire. also it could be the new carb isn't tuned right and it could be leaning out at lower RPMs.
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It cant be plugs (new) or wires (new) because it runs perfectly in 1st and second. second gear low rpm just fine.. just in drive and only in drive. vacuum line connected, kickdown cable is not as it was in the stock Qjet. also new cam, lifters, MSD/HEI cap/rotor. even in park, no miss. WOT sounds great. only in Drive
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Where do you have the idle rpm & the base timing set at?
Did you try advancing or retarding the timing/reset the idle?
Do you have a timing light that can read the idle & timing curve?
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sounds like a tuning issue, the car in drive and going over 45 or so is the most load at the least rpm. so either your timing is not advanced enough or like they said the carb is leaning out. stock timing is 10-12 base timing, on up. mine is about 18-20, for a pretty heavily modded sbc

good tuning procedure for holley;
Look at your primary jets. Whatever size they are, buy some that are 2 sizes, 4 sizes, 5 sizes, and 6 sizes smaller; and 2 sizes larger. You'll be needing them.

First, set the fuel level. If it has sight plugs, set the primary one to where gas dribbles out while the engine is idling, when you just bump the fender; and set the sec one to where you have to jiggle the car pretty good to get it to come out.

Lean the primary jets (using the "step size" description above) until the car just barely starts to surge while cruising (55-60 mph) at a steady speed on a level highway and it starts going up a hill. Ignore all other misbehavior of any kind for the time being. Once you find that point, go back up 2 jet sizes.

Once you get it to do that, look at the primary side power valve. If it'* stock, it'* probably a 65. Stupid. Raise the value until the flat spot goes away when you're in high gear and driving along at about 35 mph (basically, as slow as you can possibly go in high gear), and you give it gas. It'll take a MUCH higher number power valve.... probably a 105 or a 125. If it starts giving you the burn-your-eyes idle, go back down one step.

When you get that right, set the idle speed right (800 RPM out of gear, say); then get the idle mixture right by turning each pimary idle screw in until the RPM drops, then back it back out 1/8 turn. Shut the motor off, and average the 2 screws (like, if one is 5/8 turn out, and one is 7/8 turn out, set them both to 3/4 turn out), and restart the motor, and check them again. Repeat until they're equal, or until you have determined that they absolutely CANNOT be made equal. In no case should they be more than 1/8 turn different.

Take the carb off, flip it over, and look at the transition slot. You want less than .050" of it exposed below the pri throtle blades. If more of it is exposed than that (it will be), open the sec throttles with their idle screw, 1/8 turn; put the carb back on; re-set the idle speed and mixture; then pop the carb back off and look at it. Repeat until you have between .030" and .050" of the transition slot showing.

At this point, the thing should run like a bat outta hell, on the primaries. The secondaries could be just about anywhere. Put a 65 power valve in them, if they don't already have that; and select jets for max mile mph.

At that point, you'll have your Holley set up better than about 95% of all other Holley owners. You'll be getting nearly the same gas mileage as you would with a Q-jet, and you'll be making 20% more power than most cars with the same cam & heads, and FI.
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