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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike
Just to eliminate a possibility, but are you sure you didn't disconnect the return fuel line by mistake in your original post?
Yes. I appreciate your thoroughness tho.
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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by j.alan
Thanks for the tip. I don't think I have a tool to check actual oil pressure when starting, but the oil light comes on when the key is turned to on, and turns off after a few seconds of cranking.
That'* not it then.
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Old Aug 9, 2022 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by j.alan
I can now hear the pump run for a couple of seconds when I turn the ignition key.
This tells me the fuel pump relay is good. The PCM as well.

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when I disconnect the incoming fuel line in the engine compartment, I can tell there is no pressure on the line. Just a small amount of fuel (less than a teaspoon) trickles out.
From your description:

1. Turn on ignition
2. Fuel pump runs for a couple of seconds
3. Turn off ignition
4. Disconnect incoming fuel line in the engine compartment
5. A small amount of fuel (less than a teaspoon) trickles out
6. Reconnect incoming fuel line in the engine compartment

Can you do this over and over repeatedly, like five or ten times, and get the same consistent small amount of fuel (less than a teaspoon) each and every time? If so, this tells me that flow is restricted somewhere, the pump is sucking some air, or the pump is defective. If it wasn't pumping at all then you wouldn't get that small amount of fuel every single time. I wonder if:

- the pressure line is pinched or bent somewhere
. pressure and return lines are hooked up backwards and the pump is fighting a check valve
- fuel filter is in backwards and pump is fighting that
- pickup in the tank is compromised

Please don't take any offense to any of those, it'* just what I am wondering based on what I understand of this.

It might be worthwhile to drop the tank while keeping the wires connected, disconnect the pressure line, turn the ignition on, and see what happens.

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But seriously, it would be a good troubleshooting step. Have a fire extinguisher and source of water handy, keep anything that sparks and any flames away, and only do this once then let everything dry out for more than long enough.
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Old Aug 9, 2022 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CathedralCub
This tells me the fuel pump relay is good. The PCM as well.

From your description:

1. Turn on ignition
2. Fuel pump runs for a couple of seconds
3. Turn off ignition
4. Disconnect incoming fuel line in the engine compartment
5. A small amount of fuel (less than a teaspoon) trickles out
6. Reconnect incoming fuel line in the engine compartment

Can you do this over and over repeatedly, like five or ten times, and get the same consistent small amount of fuel (less than a teaspoon) each and every time?
Thank you for your reply. Yes, I can do that. I'm also going to try to find out why the pump does not run when I connect the pump primer wire to the + battery terminal.

The fuel supply and return lines in the engine compartment are aluminum. I do not think it is even possible to cross them up without destroying them. The fuel filter is not only marked directionally, but has different connectors on either end making it nigh impossible to put it in backwards. I do think it is possible that there is internal corrosion (white rust) in the supply line. I will test it with compressed air. The pickup filter for the pump motor is new. New filters came with the motor.
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Old Aug 9, 2022 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by j.alan
Thank you for your reply. Yes, I can do that. I'm also going to try to find out why the pump does not run when I connect the pump primer wire to the + battery terminal.

The fuel supply and return lines in the engine compartment are aluminum. I do not think it is even possible to cross them up without destroying them. The fuel filter is not only marked directionally, but has different connectors on either end making it nigh impossible to put it in backwards. I do think it is possible that there is internal corrosion (white rust) in the supply line. I will test it with compressed air. The pickup filter for the pump motor is new. New filters came with the motor.
What is the dead head pressure? You may have a bad pump. They are not all good that are fresh out of a box.
Also, did the pump require you to attach hose(*) to the pump when installing? Your problem is simple we don't need to make it hard.

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Old Aug 9, 2022 | 12:54 PM
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Also, what was the brand of fuel pump?
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Old Aug 17, 2022 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by j.alan
Thank you for your reply. Yes, I can do that. I'm also going to try to find out why the pump does not run when I connect the pump primer wire to the + battery terminal.

The fuel supply and return lines in the engine compartment are aluminum. I do not think it is even possible to cross them up without destroying them. The fuel filter is not only marked directionally, but has different connectors on either end making it nigh impossible to put it in backwards. I do think it is possible that there is internal corrosion (white rust) in the supply line. I will test it with compressed air. The pickup filter for the pump motor is new. New filters came with the motor.
I dont think its aluminum, the pulses from the pump would eventually break the hard line. its probably coated steel and it stays nice since its in the engine bay
i ALSO doubt your car uses battery positive on the primer wire, most fuel pump things are a ground to a relay.

but I could be wrong. does your car have any security issue? If you crank and have someone spraying starting fluid does it run?
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Originally Posted by carfixer007
What is the dead head pressure? You may have a bad pump. They are not all good that are fresh out of a box.
Also, did the pump require you to attach hose(*) to the pump when installing? Your problem is simple we don't need to make it hard.
if he didnt put a whole module but just replaced a part I bet the pulse hose whatever isnt hooked up
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Old Aug 17, 2022 | 09:15 AM
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Lets verify what brand fuel pump he put in, and whether he put a complete sending unit in, or just the pump.
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Old Aug 20, 2022 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike
Lets verify what brand fuel pump he put in, and whether he put a complete sending unit in, or just the pump.
I installed just the pump motor, Delphi FE0077.
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