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Old 09-16-2013, 06:25 PM   #1
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Hello all GM enthusiasts !

Firstly, I'm sorry if this post is the bad thread.

I am an user of the Commons Wikimedia, where I share my automobile pictures that I took as my hobby. Last year, I was for several months in China and I took many pictures of local and imported vehicles. There, GM'* vehicles are very popular.

Buick was the first marque from GM to be produced in China late 1998 with two models which are the chinese version of the US 1997-2004 Buick Century/Regal. Then, the Buick Sail (based on Opel Corsa B) in 1999 and the GL8 (2nd-gen Chevy Transport/Pontiac Montana) in 2000.

So, I'm very interesting about these 2 first Buick produced in China - called "New Century" and "G-GL-GLX Series", sold late 1998 to late 2002 - and remplaced by an update version of the US Regal sold to 2008 (and exported to the Philippines as Chevrolet Lumina).

We said me that this car : http://i46.tinypic.com/6ghmqq.jpg is an "G-GL-GLX Series" -- but some "New Century" had the same grille.
And this car : Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting it is maybe an import model or a "New Century" model.

It is not very clear - automobile history in China is very obscure. So I need more informations about these cars.

PS: I'm sorry for the mistakes, english is not my native language.
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Welcome to the forum! I don't know a whole lot about either car you posted, but the first picture looks like the US Regal. I don't really know much about the specs of that car. I have read some things about the second car, which looks like the Century. From what I remember, it has a 2.5L V6, which is based off of the 3.1L V6 found in the North American Century model. I believe it was basically just a 1997-2005 Century imported, but with a smaller motor.

Like I said, I'm not too sure about the one that looks like the Regal. It may just be a higher trim lever of the "new century"
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A quick and easy way to find out the orgian and options of a car is to take down the VIN "vehicle identity number" there many websites that can decode it and tell you the year, where it was made and the options it came with.
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I would like to see some real photos of the New Style Park Ave that China got.
Even though they stopped making them in the USA after 05..here is an 07 in China...
File:New Buick Park Avenue.jpg - Wikimedia Commons
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Found another link on the Premium Buick in China...
2007 Buick Park Avenue - Top Speed
Me would like one Please!
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Thank you for your replies.

I just took the pictures in the streets, so I don't ask the VIN to the owners !
But in China, old chinese cars or vehicles from small chinese automakers, the VIN is written on the back of the car.

But for foreign cars, to do the difference between a local built or overseas built - only the chinese letters on the back of the vehicle do it. Like on this Buick Excelle XT : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...2012-04-29.JPG
on the right, we can read : "上海通用" means "Shanghai GM" for the joint-venture SAIC-GM. If the car hasn't this, it is an imported car.

The problem with the Chinese version of Century/Regal, it is the real name of the car is not written on the back ... no VIN, just "上海通用".
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@Soft Ride : I uploaded some pictures of the chinese Buick Park Avenue there : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/C..._Avenue_(China)

But the car is not a big success. I often saw in Shanghai, but less in others big cities.
The Buick Park Avenue replaced the Buick Royaum which was a rebadged Holden Statesman from 2005 to 2007 (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/C...y:Buick_Royaum). The Royaum was imported from Australia, so was sold in a limited number because of huge imports taxes. The Park Avenue is built in Shanghai by the SAIC-GM joint-venture, but its V6 engine comes from Australia.
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Sorry for the broken link : Buick Park Avenue in China.

1.501 Park Avenue were sold in 2012 (2.204 in 2011).

I have more pictures :

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Navigator84 Thank You for the reply and Pk Ave photos, got any recent interior shots?
From what I understand they are all rear wheel drive in the 07 and beyond?
Some had available the 300+ HP V-8 as well.
Can imagine a supercharged v-8, that would really scoot!
Some interiors were made for the owners with DVD flip down screens etc and were for the small limo idea..wonder what sound systems are in them?
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The Buick Park Avenue is a rebadged Holden WM Statesman/Caprice, and so has the real wheel drive.
Unfortunetely, the Park Avenue just has the V6 3.6 L Alloytec with about 280hp. The V8 isn't available because the engines are imported from Australia, and more the engine is big, more there are taxes.

The Park Avenue has DVD system with 7" screens for the rear-seats, 6 CD player, sound system with 8 speakers, Navigation system with English language, etc ....
The car cost from 369.900 RMB (about $60.400).

The facelifted Holden WN Statesman/Caprice will available in Australia in fall 2013-winter 2014, so maybe the Park Avenue will be replaced soon. But, probably not because the Cadillac XTS is now produced in China and Cadillac is better as luxury cars.
I really want GM to develop a new Park Avenue !
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