you forgot to add sucks theres nothin you can do about it cause "I'm the BOSS!"

thanks for the info Rob!

Hey I wasn't the only hand on the wheel.........hehehe

I guess I'll forgive you.....this time. ;-)

But I would agree with some of the posts, after almost a year of owing my GXP I've started divorcing in mind the concept of these cars as all out performance machines. It seems more and more cars can put up the same performance figures and in some cases surpass our big Pontiac by a mile. The looks, comfort, and performance of the GXP's make them an attractive package. I do think the next auto purchase for me will be a CTS-V, looks. comfort, and OBSCENE performance.

By the way, as the mileage has been added on our cars, has the mid 14 second quarter mile become more accepted figure? I know the flame wars of 2004-2006 were pegging the GXP's at low to mid 15's. (and now I've hijacked my own thread)

FWIW:

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2351a.shtml

Thats one "version" Robert. There are alot of them 14's to 16. I believe Intense Racing owners stock best was 15.1

Motor Trends 1/4 mile testing when the car was new was 14.6. The old staff here said "they couldn't be trusted" and "they cater to Manufacturers". Maybe. This was nearly replicated by a forum member who submitted a valid track receipt (and posted here) So for me mid 14's is the benchmark. Being an engine that's lean on delivering low end torque and a FWD config, I'm sure technique and experience with FWD has alot to do with it. The member who ran the time had gutted the airbox out and had alot of "performance drive time" with his car. So I say, the GXP is capable of doing upper 14's, not does.

It's been decided here long ago that rather than continue the argument, either go out and prove it right or wrong. I haven't any further patience redigging past flames on the matter.

and 14.6 is completely believable. back in 1993, motorweek tested a 93 eldorado ETC and pulled a 14.8@98 weighing a bit over 3700 lbs...

some cars ARE factory freaks and break the general trends by up to a whole second, all other factors reamining the same.

Sorry, didn't mean to open old wounds. I was suggesting most of the benchmarks were from when the motors of the cars were still tight. I just wondered if a more accurate figure was derived. Mid 15s always seemed a bit slow with all things considered.

you can always just check, i have one of the gtech accelerometers and you can go out on a back road and check what you got. it says my monte is still at 7.9s 0-60 which is right on most of the listings. i weighed my car and with accurate weight it gives hp and all that pretty accurately.

i have two scanners at home i might go out tonight and see what it would run in a 1/4 mile

ops, nevermind

i just remembered i wont have my car for couple of weeks
it just went into the bodyshop to have the front bumper skin replaced and repainted