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Old 01-06-2004, 12:03 AM   #1
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I want to be getting a remote starter for my 97 riv but I want to be clear on a few things first. Instead of having two seperate remotes, I'd rather get a remote starter with keyless entry. My question is, if I get the aftermarket keyless entry, will the stock alarm still work by activation, (pressing lock on either the door or keyless pad) and also, will the horn still work when locking doors with the keyless entry. One thing I want to keep too is the perimeter lighting when the car is unlocked with the keyless entry. Will any of this still work with the aftermarket system? I hope it does. anyway, if it doesn't work I'll just get the remote start and not the keyless entry too. But if it would all work I'll get it all. The brand is DEI and the total cost will be around $180 with only the remote start, and $230 with the keyless entry.
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Well depends on the exact alarm, were are you getting it from and who'* installing it? They should know.

DEI makes good stuff, If you get a remote start and an alarm/keyless entry, it will all be on 1 clicker for sure, I had the Viper 550esp. paid $350 Loved it, never had a problem. Now on my 01 ssei I'm in the apponintment book to get a remote start/alarm installed next week. Again going with a Viper dei product 791 there 2nd generation 2 way system were you have small LCD on the clicker and can see if your car is running/locked/ect. It will also page you aka start beeping if the alarm goes off. This is the main reason why I'm getting a 2 way system, want to know if some one is breaking in. also has 1/4 mile range. The 791 is the new one and retails for 499 installed and the older model now called the 790 which can be found at a nice discount right now. shop around and make some phone calls.

My dad wants to get a remote start from the joe schmoe add in the paper
"Add remote start to any vechile $99 installed"
He'* going to learn the hardway, that is definitly 2 seperate clickers and very short range
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Mine works out kinda neat, I can use either remote for the locks and trunk. And they have different results. I have the remoste set up to honk and flash on lock, just flash on unlock. The Starter remote blinks once for lock, twice for unlock.

As far as the alarm, like said previously, it'll depend on what you get, and/or how they wire it.
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i believe the alarm is activated by the remote lock/unlock signal only. So you would have to have the lock/unlock command sent through the factory remote start wires, and not the switch wires. Most remote start/keyless entry will have an alarm anyways, that is better too.
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Through personal law enforcement experience, I gotta say most alarms are worthless. Nobody reacts to them anymore. If you're going to spend the money, go ahead and get a new alarm too, but get the one that notifies you through the remote. Hoping the noise of an alarm alone will draw attention from bystanders or scare away a burglar/car thief is kind of a pipe dream anymore...
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That is true. The VATS workaround will need to be done too, don't forget that!
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i believe the alarm is activated by the remote lock/unlock signal only. So you would have to have the lock/unlock command sent through the factory remote start wires, and not the switch wires. Most remote start/keyless entry will have an alarm anyways, that is better too.
Typically, the factory alarm is armed by locking the car via either an outside key switch while all doors and trunk are closed, or via the inside lock button _while_ the door is open (i.e. when you're getting out of the car, not just sitting in it).

Once armed, it is deactivated by grounding a certain circuit. That occurs either when the door is opened with a key (the door key lock grounds the necessary wire) or when the factory keyless-entry system unlocks the car.

The add-on aftermarket starters include a connection to the Factory Alarm Shutdown Wire (FASD) which ground it when necessary in order to prevent triggering the factory alarm (i.e. when unlocking the car, starting it while locked, or popping the trunk).

In my experience, the aftermarket keyless entry systems do not use the car'* original Keyless Entry transceiver, if so equipped. Instead, they use their own control box and drive the Lock/Unlock circuits via the wiring harness to the existing door switches.

If you want to continue to use the factory alarm, you need to ensure that your aftermarket box is locking the car in a method that will arm the system: e.g. connect it to the exterior lock wires, or if using connections to the interior lock switches instead, make sure you zap the car _before_ closing the last door. Make sure you connect to the FASD wire where directed; on the '93 and probably other years as well, that is the Light Green wire connected to the exterior key lock in the door.

And yes, if your car has a VATS chip in the ignition key or other anti-theft system, you'll need to be sure to install the correct adaptor for that or your remote starter won't be able to start the car.
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I bought it today, the brand was actually aviator I believe, total cost with installation, 'alarm bypass' as they called it was $265. This is remote start/keyless entry. They said the factory alarm will still work. I hope so.
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I bought it today, the brand was actually aviator I believe, total cost with installation, 'alarm bypass' as they called it was $265. This is remote start/keyless entry. They said the factory alarm will still work. I hope so.
Verify it right there in the parking lot before you drive off. Don't wait to get home before verifying that they did the job right and didn't break anything else.
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got it installed yesterday, the brand was DEI. It took them 5 and a half hours to get it done, they said it was the hardest car they've ever done.. WHen I went to go start it today using the remote starter the alarm started giong offf and I could NOT shut it off by unlocking the doors using the aftermarket keyless entry.. I had to find my old factory remote and go out tot eh car and shut it off.. after I shut it off (it had been around 30 seconds that it was running) the car started sputtering like it was running out of fuel and it stalled. The alarm also goes off everytime I unlock the doors using the aftermarket keyless entry. They fu**** the install all up I'm guessing.. They didn't wire it so the factory alarm is deactivated (thus all of my problems I'm guessing.)
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