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Old 04-19-2004, 04:01 PM   #1
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I have read the instructions for programming a new remote on this site but I am having a heck of a time shorting the pins together. Anyone have pics of which 2 slots I should be connecting? I was trying for a while and ended up blowing a fuse LOL. I have a 95 SSEI if that makes a difference? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated
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I have read the instructions for programming a new remote on this site but I am having a heck of a time shorting the pins together. Anyone have pics of which 2 slots I should be connecting? I was trying for a while and ended up blowing a fuse LOL. I have a 95 SSEI if that makes a difference? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated
Oh, bloody hell, I thought we fixed that TechInfo article already:

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/techinfo/?article=60

The second pin number is missing from the instructions due to some sort of typo somewhere. My '93 has a different sequence so I can't say for sure which pin is supposed to be jumpered to pin 4 on a '95 model (although as a wild guess I'd say that if pin 4 isn't a ground wire itself, it should be jumpered to one for this procedure).
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Okay, based on a quick ransacking of the database here, it appears to be pins 1 and 4: http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=14769

Note that there'* a bit of contradictory advice going on in that thread as far as which pins should be jumpered together, but pay particular attention to the posting from givemebreak, since it'* specific to the 1995 models, and seems to be complete, so let us know if that works for you.
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I have the same car you do. If you look real close at the connector, you'll notice that not all the holes have pins in them. That said, locate a whole with a pin on the far left or right side of either row, and then locate a pin that is 4 locations towards the middle in that SAME row.

Now, if I remember correctly, there is only one combination like this on my connector. It may differ from car to car, though. That said, use a paperclip to jump them.

I'll go grab a picture tonight to show everyone for once and for all
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ok thanks...I'll have a shot at it tomorrow
glanghus...ya i would like to see the pic if you get one!

thanks again!
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Okay, based on a quick ransacking of the database here, it appears to be pins 1 and 4: http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=14769
Okay, stop right there; us Gearheads were doing some more research on this and it looks like for a 1995 Bonneville, it should be pins 4 and 8. So if you haven't already set fire to the car... :

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1995 Bonneville Keyless Entry Programming Procedure

1) Turn ignition switch off

2) Using a fused jumper, jump datalink connector terminal 8 to terminal 4

3) Press **Unlock** button on one transmitter; doors should lock and unlock

4) If you have an additional transmitter for the car to learn, repeat step 3 using that additional transmitter now.

5) Disconnect the jumper wire from the diagnostic port.
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Pins 4 & 8. I took the diagram off because apparently techinfo wasn't correct...all has been fixed, I hear?
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As of the current time we have had members short out the wrong pins(and that was our fault) We have corrected the techinfo section, and its per the 1995 GM service manual... The proper pins to short are pins 4 & 8... Thankyou
The moral here is that the specific pins involved are different from one model year to the next, especially for years newer than 1993, when the OBD II system was brought in.

Prior to 1994 (in fact for _almost_ all ALDL connectors from their inception around 1981 up until 1993), the pin assignments were remarkably consistent from one year to the next, but we still need to be careful to say (1) which model year we've had specific experience with, and then (2) which other years may be similar, but only as an educated guess. i.e. Identify which stuff you're positive about and which stuff you're not sure of.

There are exceptions to everything, and Gawd knows GM has produced its share of exceptions. For example, try explaining the ALDL assignments to somebody who owns a Fiero: on some of those cars, the connector'* installed sideways (i.e. vertically), so even helpful stuff like "short the two upper-right ports together" don't really translate into Fiero-speak all that well.
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I removed the pic, as to not confuse anyone. What I meant by not having the correct pin numbers in my diagram is that they might not have been numbered in the proper chronological order, as the manufacture would have ordered them. I get this feeling cause no one specifies which end is up when they post pin numbers (as in techinfo), and since there are 8 pins on the top and bottom, it'* tough to tell how the connector is oriented, thus where the numbers should start wrap around and end.
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