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Old 07-12-2005, 09:32 PM   #11
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I'm not sure if our systems are the same, stock. Because I hear the later Delco setups aren't as good as the old school ones.


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I'm not sure if our systems are the same, stock. Because I hear the later Delco setups aren't as good as the old school ones.


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they are not the same, the HU, amp and the speakers are different. SO they are not the same, but the older systems actually have rear speaker boxes, to help the bass.

But I will put money on that if you compare a car if a similar era, the bonne will own

and dont be so confident that the older delcos are better
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Yeah, i've heard nothing of the era that sounds good... but then again I don't hear high end cars much .

I'll put money that my Delco is a damn good stereo, but I have never heard a later Delco setup personally.. so I cannot comment. But you've got some competition


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Captain...I did a new HU keeping the stock speakers, wiring, amp and gain slider. Please see my thread below and feel free to ask any questions. Primarily I stared at the FSM diagram for quite a while to understand it (they aren't easy). Then added a few wires to the connector I bought to add amp power (made the gain work) and dimmer wire for the mounting plate lights.

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...764&highlight=

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Yeah, i've heard nothing of the era that sounds good... but then again I don't hear high end cars much .

I'll put money that my Delco is a damn good stereo, but I have never heard a later Delco setup personally.. so I cannot comment. But you've got some competition


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DUH that is what im saying, the Delco is good for stock.....and please dont comment that your gen is the best when you have not heard a later gen....when i had just a HU everyone would ask if i had Subs in the back.........now i dont have a stock piece if audio in my car, except for the speaker wiring.
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you should of installed the deck yourself. with GM cars, it couldnt be any easier

if i were in your spot, i would get a refund and complain like crazy
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Just an update: The power on for an external amp line is connected to the factory wiring, but I am not sure what that is going to. Does anyone know where the amp is in this car? Technically, the gain should be coming on...So I'm still trying to figure this one out.

Also, does anyone know the size of the woofers in the front doors? Maybe instead of subs investing in new 6x9'* for the back and whatever the front are would be a good investment.
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The front speakers are 5.25"


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First off, your wiring is probably not the best. The easiest way to hook up an aftermarket deck is to get a wiring adaptor from canadian tire or whatever and wire it to your aftermarket deck and plug it into the cars wiring. Now if your wiring is different cuz they screwed with it, you should find out what wires power which speaker. I have a test for that.

1. Use the wiring adaptor kit to see what wires are supposed to go to what speaker.

2. wire up a AA battery (1.5v) so that you can plug it into each pair of speaker wires. you will hear a popping sound from the speaker you power. DO NOT LEAVE THE BATTERY CONNECTED for any period of time because it will burn it out the speaker!!!, your just doing this to test which speaker makes a noise.

3. Once you know what speaker wires go where, you can then conect your head unit to the wires however you like (use wiring adaptor, splice wires if you have to)

You can use the factory wiring for the rear speakers, BUT there are two pairs, one pair from the head unit, and one pair from the gain amp. as long as you hook the speakers up to the head unit pair you will be fine, I was confused at first with the extra pair of wires but its not hard to figure out.
The front speakers in your car arent designed to make much bass and they will get drowned out by the rears for sure. As long as you dont hear distortion from the fronts your fine.
as far as the gain amp, I would suggest that you do not use it because it will only cause problems. Your head unit should have enough power for the rears (or go with a seperate amp like i am going to)
if your really set on using the gain then youll have to think of something creative because its kinda tricky. Im sure it can be done, but aftermarket rear speakers will definately sound better than what you have right now. A good system can sound good without a sub. plus you can add one later if you really want to.
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Stock is never good. end of story
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