Mounting speakers in Rear doors?
08-23-2006, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Blownville
Not trying to offend just want to give you my opinion based on my recent expierence. I would get some clean powered amps first. There is nothing that will such an improvement than having clean watts running your speakers. I just found this out myself. I installed my wifes system (check my sig) and I thought it sounds good. I then installed my system and found that a good quality (even if its old) amp can make a world of difference on the sound. I am running a 6 channel Zapco that runs my complete system, and I feel it'* the best system of mine I have had ever (I have had a lot of systems). I have massive clean power that pounds everything nice, loud, and clear. My wifes system just dosen't sound nearly as good due to the fact that hers is running a cheap 4 channel Sony amp. the Sony sounds good but not nearly as crystal clear as my Zapco. If you would like to improve I would suggest an amp replacement. I am not very famillar with Rockford as I never liked them (no offense to anyone), but I feel that the dual is probabally not putting out very clean power. I would start there. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
my next thing was just to sell and replace the amp with a better brand name.. the dual works.. but only to work i dont expect the best from it
08-23-2006, 11:35 AM
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no def i no what u mean i dont have a lot of $ to work with im just trying to do what i can.
my next thing was just to sell and replace the amp with a better brand name.. the dual works.. but only to work i dont expect the best from it[/quote]
Oh yeah I understand completly. Hey keep an eye on your local Craigslist.com for a good amp for a great price. I got my Zapco from a guy on there who benched it for me at Best Buy (he works there) and I bought it for $200. That one runs my whole system like I can't believe. The best $200 I ever spent on car audio.
my next thing was just to sell and replace the amp with a better brand name.. the dual works.. but only to work i dont expect the best from it[/quote]
Oh yeah I understand completly. Hey keep an eye on your local Craigslist.com for a good amp for a great price. I got my Zapco from a guy on there who benched it for me at Best Buy (he works there) and I bought it for $200. That one runs my whole system like I can't believe. The best $200 I ever spent on car audio.
08-24-2006, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by corvettecrazy
why are you thinking of putting rear speakers in the doors over the rear deck??
The whole sound stage will be off. In a properly set up car, the sound will sound like the stage is sitting on the dashboard. By putting speakers in the rear doors you are moving the sound stage even father back than it would be already.
The whole sound stage will be off. In a properly set up car, the sound will sound like the stage is sitting on the dashboard. By putting speakers in the rear doors you are moving the sound stage even father back than it would be already.
Are you kidding me. Most cars with high end systems have speakers in the rear doors as well as the back shelf. Shoot my GXP with its monsoon system had speakers in the rear doors too.
I closing it would only improve the "sound stage" not throw it off
08-24-2006, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Shadow
Originally Posted by corvettecrazy
why are you thinking of putting rear speakers in the doors over the rear deck??
The whole sound stage will be off. In a properly set up car, the sound will sound like the stage is sitting on the dashboard. By putting speakers in the rear doors you are moving the sound stage even father back than it would be already.
The whole sound stage will be off. In a properly set up car, the sound will sound like the stage is sitting on the dashboard. By putting speakers in the rear doors you are moving the sound stage even father back than it would be already.
Are you kidding me. Most cars with high end systems have speakers in the rear doors as well as the back shelf. Shoot my GXP with its monsoon system had speakers in the rear doors too.
I closing it would only improve the "sound stage" not throw it off
08-24-2006, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by toastedoats
Originally Posted by Shadow
Originally Posted by corvettecrazy
why are you thinking of putting rear speakers in the doors over the rear deck??
The whole sound stage will be off. In a properly set up car, the sound will sound like the stage is sitting on the dashboard. By putting speakers in the rear doors you are moving the sound stage even father back than it would be already.
The whole sound stage will be off. In a properly set up car, the sound will sound like the stage is sitting on the dashboard. By putting speakers in the rear doors you are moving the sound stage even father back than it would be already.
Are you kidding me. Most cars with high end systems have speakers in the rear doors as well as the back shelf. Shoot my GXP with its monsoon system had speakers in the rear doors too.
I closing it would only improve the "sound stage" not throw it off
08-24-2006, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 1993 SLE
ok so what about the Harmon Kardon in the Benz that uses speakers in the rear doors?
The whole reaosning behind having all your sound up front is that it is far easier and cheaper to have a well balanced sound, not all of us have the money to pay a team of engineers from germany to design a perfect sounding 8 channel STEREO audio system.
The more speakers you have the more variant, and the poorer the imaging.
simply put, more is not always better, and in this case, more will be nothing but detrimental to his goals
08-24-2006, 06:26 PM
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I also agree with toasty, and 1993 SLE. Like I stated before that it'* best to run clean wattage before adding more speakers. If you want more you can add a small touch with the factory tweets like I have. Those tweets give me so much treble with my two ways that I actually had to turn it down on my HU! That is the first time ever that I have had to do that. It blew me away. 
08-25-2006, 07:58 PM
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They may have speakers in the rear doors, but what is the purpose? Are they meerly for rear fill, the rear passengers?
The whole concept of music reproduction is to reproduce an original event like a concert. A great sound stage will put the vocals between the speakers, have pinpointed drums and main guitar, and some backround music should flow around you.
Most audiophiles run 2 channels in their home, because that'* what the music is encoded for. Many enthusiasts will run a matrixed Dolby pro logic over their 5.1 stereos, but it degrades quality, and really is meant more for 5.1 encoded material like DVDs, SA-CDs, etc...
The whole concept of music reproduction is to reproduce an original event like a concert. A great sound stage will put the vocals between the speakers, have pinpointed drums and main guitar, and some backround music should flow around you.
Most audiophiles run 2 channels in their home, because that'* what the music is encoded for. Many enthusiasts will run a matrixed Dolby pro logic over their 5.1 stereos, but it degrades quality, and really is meant more for 5.1 encoded material like DVDs, SA-CDs, etc...