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Old 01-18-2004, 10:08 AM   #21
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15 is ok for rap and pure SPL, but what kind of music you listen to? What do you want it to do?
I feel this is an important factor to consider, if big bass is your thing, go for the 15. But if you like to be able to hear MUSIC instead of bass, go for a pair of 10s or 12s.
but even really low bass is still part of the music, its just a smaller part that most people arent used to hearing because they always buy 10s or 12s
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15 is ok for rap and pure SPL, but what kind of music you listen to? What do you want it to do?
I listen to, rap, hip hop, techno, rock, and alertnative... I just want it to pound hard and sound good...


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I feel this is an important factor to consider, if big bass is your thing, go for the 15. But if you like to be able to hear MUSIC instead of bass, go for a pair of 10s or 12s.
What about if I get a remote gain... then I can turn the bass up for rap and hip hop and tone it down a little bit for rock and alternative. When I went up to the car audio shop, the guy there put in the X - Ecutioners - its going down... um yeah thats when I decided I wanted the 15 it sounded amasing. Plus, the other advantages are, 1 15 is less than 2 12s and also they quoted me about $50 cheaper for the box for just one 15 rather than 2 12s....
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Old 01-18-2004, 11:36 AM   #23
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OK, well I think I know some of it, just not the whole thing thus far...
What I want to do is:
2 RockfordFosgate HE2 12" subs in a custom box (not for sure though, what do you think?)
custom amp rack
Lightning audio amp install kit
1.0 Frad Cap
Amp??? I have no idea... I really don't know what is good and what isn't. If at all possible I want to stick with RF but it'* not a must.
What else am I going to need? Thanks for any help...

BTW, I'm a highschool student, so most highend stuff is out of the question (JL etc)
Well at least you have a car in high school, I had to take the bus. Plus I didn't get my license til I was 17 . You should sound good
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Check out the revised plan... It will be a lot better!
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1 JL 15w3
1 JL 500/1
1 Lightning Audio install kit
1 Optima red or yellow top (I haven't decided yet)
Custom Box / amp rack
Don't think I'm getting this as a free ride either... I work quite often now, and I saved a lot of my money while I was working 55+ hours a week durring the summer. I pay for all my mods, all my gas, and all of my insurance... I am very lucky to be able to have the car that I do.
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What about if I get a remote gain... then I can turn the bass up for rap and hip hop and tone it down a little bit for rock and alternative.
Think of the remote gain as a volume control for the subs. It won't do anything for frequency control, just how loud your subs are.
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Ok, I've been away for a while so I'll be covering a couple of things.

Sub sizes:
You have mainly 4 types 10", 12", 15", and 18". (There are 8" but I don't think they count as subs) different subs give you different performance. It'* not Bigger is better. 10" for example may not give you as low as 20 Hz responce but with only 10" of cove to push the driver can really give it some punch. on the other end 15" (18" are just Freakin insane ). give you a really low rolling sound and are LOUD because with a 15 in diameter the push alot of air. My sugestion for you espicially sence you are starting out is a pair of 12" Thay give you resonable Punch and with two of them they should more than rock your world to start with. and in the future if you decide to get a little more just add a third and boom 50% larger air movement (a.k.a. SPL, a.k.a Volume, a.k.a Loudness, a.k.a. you get the idea)

Cap vs no cap:
For an intro system like the 2X12" I think if you bump up the Battery You'll be ok. You'll know if you need a cap because your light will dim when the bass really hits. If you're not going for insane performance though so if the lights be ok then you should be fine. You might want to consider your alternator. Take it down to autozone and have it tested it take about 20 min and is free. You might also consider bumping up to a larger model. You don't want to be stranded on the side of the road cause you car has been slowly dieing. If you are looking for all out performance keep this in mind. I cap responds faster than a battery and an alternator responds faster than a cap.

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If you listen to techno you want responsive subs.

Most music doesn't go past 40hz, stuff like Three-siz mafia goes to 35-30hz. Size differs with lines as well, different speaker lines (manufactueres, and series) will be better or worse at different sizes. If you're listening to music you won't gain anything from going to a 15". If you want to compete and such then 15" in a consumer line is better.
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jl'* are about the only 15 inch sub that i've heard that still has some nice SQ.

I heard 3 15w3'* in an explorer with 3 600w crossfire amps and it was definately loud, but i was still impressed by the SQ. For 15s they hit tight...better than my old hx2 12s.
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any 15'* can have good sq, i would like to know why 15'* get such a bad reputation for sq anyway, and the size doesnt effect sq, its quality of speaker and setup, could someone please explain this to me
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take 2 of the same subs. obviously a 10" sub with have more responsiveness than a 15" sub. It is smaller, so it will take less time to recover from its full exursion.
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