kenwood 13' sub? well its in the new car audio and electronic mag awsome reveiws the same for the 12' orion h4

Do you mean 13"? That would be odd if they did a reveiw on 12' & 13' subs.

come on im a lefty

No really, they make 13' subs. With some help I mounted one on top of the roof of my car the other day.

Well, 12s arent always exactly 12 inches, and the same goes with every other size. they are probly just doing the same thing as sony with the junk pentagonal speakers. just something to try to get some sales, i wouldnt really trust the company. However orions are excellent speakers i just have the cobalts and theyve really held up. im always taking them far beyond thier x-max and they hold up great

no joke...who thought that one up??

I'd say go for it...it looks like there isn't anything bad said about them yet...

actually xtant came up with the idea first im now really sure what their angle was or why their better, but the xtants are actually really good speakers, they are also really expensive speakers. sony did it so their junk amps would match their junk amps. now they both dont just break after a mont they each look cheap too!- and sony u can quote me on that!

And ive never heard ne of those magazines say nething bad about a product ever. so they arent always a reliable source.

no but nethier is the dealer sells the product
ever noticed they dont waste their time on b/* brand names (thats 4 reviews) i personally perfer alumapros better than anything i have ever heard the dont distort under any load i heard bout them from a mag also what about the spl competors they use alot of the products listed in those mags and thats their everyday job

thats a good point i went to the db drag world finals and i did see a lot of kicker as well as some pioneer and some mtx, but both mtx and kicker do make a competition grade spl speaker, and pioneer is just an overal good company, but many times when u buy a mainstream product, U ARE BUYING THE NAME AS MUCH AS THE SPEAKERS. thats why i am against most mainstream companies u can get the same thing or something better from a less well known brand. there are some companies that arent mainstream that show up in comps and still get great numbers, such as digital designsand treo. the point is that when u buy a mainstream product, u pay for the name