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Old 11-04-2003, 10:14 PM   #11
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Damn that is a good looking stereo Trofeo. That is stock right?
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Old 11-04-2003, 10:34 PM   #12
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Im sorry but yes it is they dont have many features and for the price u could have gotten something better. When i first got my 93 mine was going out and u get a better sound out of aftermarket. Im just speaking from personal experience. and when i say junk, its comparitively speaking
Ok, let'* get started here. First off, you are dealing with a factory head unit that was only used durning MY1992 and MY1993, and you are using your experience with this head unit to call all factory head units (from other model years) junk. Secondly, the head unit in your car was (by your own admission) already failing at the time you aquired the vehicle. So, I would just like to point out that a failing head unit that was only used during MY1992 and MY1993 is not a good basis for calling a factory head unit from another model year junk, and is not even a good basis for calling the MY1992/MY1993 head unit junk due to the fact that the unit was already failing at the time you aquired it. Again, I am just attempting to point out a few flaws in your logic for calling the factory head unit junk.
 
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yes but technical data supports my experience. so do the experts and competitors. how often do u see a factory radio in a car used in audio competitions. NEVER. and its like that for a reason
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yes but technical data supports my experience. so do the experts and competitors. how often do u see a factory radio in a car used in audio competitions. NEVER. and its like that for a reason
Competitions are all about SPL, anything that'* measureable anyways, other then that it'* opinion. He wants a stock looking CD player that uses his controls, nuff said.
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Im sorry people but im not backing down from this one. I dont mean to put ne one elses car down im just trying to educate people. If u dont want to put too much money into ur radio and ur factory stereo sounds good to u then thats fine do what u want but if u want to upgrade in sound quality and features, then an aftermarket deck is a must
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Here is an example of ur typical factory speaker just look at the freaquency range. and a good component set goes from about 80 to 20,000 hz a huge difference.
http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage....7&WebPage_ID=3
by the way the premium factroy speakers are about 20 cents more at the most
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yes but technical data supports my experience. so do the experts and competitors. how often do u see a factory radio in a car used in audio competitions. NEVER. and its like that for a reason
Competitions are all about SPL, anything that'* measureable anyways, other then that it'* opinion. He wants a stock looking CD player that uses his controls, nuff said.

Yes but it is a fact that aftermarket speakers and headunits sound better than factory ones just copare the two. thats the whole point im trying to make thats it dammit thats it. thats all thats my point.
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yes but technical data supports my experience. so do the experts and competitors. how often do u see a factory radio in a car used in audio competitions. NEVER. and its like that for a reason
Competitions are all about SPL, anything that'* measureable anyways, other then that it'* opinion. He wants a stock looking CD player that uses his controls, nuff said.

Yes but it is a fact that aftermarket speakers and headunits sound better than factory ones just copare the two. thats the whole point im trying to make thats it dammit thats it. thats all thats my point.
Just because something sounds better than something else does not make that something else junk... You just went from "X sounds better than Y" to "Y must be junk because X is better"

since this is a car site, let'* put this in prespective.
A 1997 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi is better than a 1975 Honda Civic. A 1975 Honda Civic must be junk because a 1997 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi is better.

ok... bad example... here'* a better one.

A McLaren F1 is better than a 2003 Corvette Z06. A 2003 Corvette Z06 must be junk because the McLaren F1 is better. (see how this line of thinking doesn't work...)
 
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But the point of that post was to back up the point that aftermarket deckse are better than factroy ones. The technical data says that the factroy one is junk. Take for example the lack of digital signal proccessing in a factroy deck.
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the debate was just kinda fun and thrilling ur absolutely right about the pointlessness of this discusion in reletivity to the subject of the post i talk to him a lot and ill help him out but he isnt rich and he is very busy. so itll probly be low level alpine or pioneer.
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