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Old 03-22-2007, 04:43 AM   #1
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just replaced them with some infinity reference 6.5 components and I can feel they have a lot of bass the doors rattle something fierce, I can feel the vibrations that should be giving out a lot of bass, but I get no real bass out of them, tho they are running free air there is nothing to back them up, should I put something behind them or mabey make a speaker box of some type? I got more bass out of my old Camry fronts which were 3 1/2" in the stock boxes with 4" passives in the box
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where did you mount them in the door?
what is rattling?
Are they in phase with the other speakers?
are they amped?
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what radio is installed in the car?
are the crossovers adjustable for the components?
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well... these are the speakers http://www.crutchfield.com/*-Yukvn3g...086010CS&g=410 and this is the radio http://www.crutchfield.com/*-faijWhb...fo&i=113MP5028 powering all the speakers, the speakers are adjustable from the standpoint of changing the db output for the tweeters but thats it, 0 or -3db in case they are to loud.

no for the vibration it, its not somthing rattling around but if you have ever had good bass you could feel the vibration in the door. the driver side door panel against my leg really feels the thump of the bass, but I cant hear it, I get the highs and the mids, but not a whole lot of bass at all. all my bass I get is from the rear, near as I can tell its like the speakers are out of phase but they arnt, I checked and tried swaping them to see.
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Being a 95, do you have the two screws in the outter panel in place? The door panel integegrity relies on all the clips and screws being in place. Otherwise the door panel will rattle uncontrollably
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if the speakers are in fact in phase there are a couple things you can do.

first. TRIPLE check the settings on the headunit to make sure that there is no HPF or anything turned on to the front speakers.

second. Leaving teh doors unsealed is just asking for poor bass response, and even sloppy sounding midbase, the best thing you can do for this is to seal off your doors completely, because right now they are essentially free-air speakers

how are the speakers currently mounted?
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Just for clairification sake.........Are you saying your not getting enough low bass out of the Mid-bass Drivers ?
If this is the case it is probably due to the fact that you are using the passive crossover block that came with them. Check the manual that came with them and see what frequencies are being aloud to pass through the crossover, to the Mid-bass Driver.

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The factory (Mid Driver) speakers may be able to play down to as low as 20 hz, which is strong bass.
Now that you have added another Filter (The passive crossover block) it may be blocking some of the low frequencies to protect the speaker.

Do you have the factory Amplified system ?

If so the signal is most likely already being split by the amplifier so there is no need to filter it again with the passive crossover block that came with the Infinity'*, but I am not 100% sure about this as I haven't replaced my stock speakers yet.

Maybe someone else here can tell you if the factory tweeter & mid have different feeds from the amp (2 seperate pairs of wires coming from the amp).
Do Not remove the crossover block until this is verified by someone here or you run the risk of blowing your new tweeters.

If the above is not the case..........
Are there any rips in the plasic door seal (Moisture Barrier)?
Is the speaker sealed properly around the mounting area with no gaps ?
Also check to make sure that the door panel is held securely, no missing or broken clips.

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Do not remove the crossover!! Make sure that you have your head units crossovers set correctly(or off). Check that your speakers are the correct polarity. You are losing some bass because there are lots of holes and spaces for the air from the back of the speakers to leak to the front which cancels bass. Sealing the door off the best you can with plastic and tape would work well, or you could build an enclosure to seal off the speaker only. The speakers crossover (separate box) has a low pass for the bass and a highpass for the tweeter. Running the tweeter off of the deck with no crossover will destroy them because bass will blow it. Plus, the crossover is designed to work with that specific speaker combination. You could be losing low bass because you do not have enough power to run the component speakers. They are usually less efficient (quieter at the same volume setting) than the stock speakers so they need more power to get the most out of them. I noticed a lack of bass when I installed my front components too, but the bass came back when I used an external amplifier.
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ok, I have the base model CD player for stock, so no outboard amplification, also I have no idea what it sounded like stock as there were no speakers in the car when I got them just the empty holes. also the plastic water barrier is gone on the drivers side and almost gone on the passenger side, the driver side I will have to rebuild as it looks like it was a bad rebuild from the accident it had that made it a salvaged title, and I just put the speakers in the stock locations, and it is just free air as the front nor the back are sealed against anything. and about half the clips are not there to hold the door panel in place.
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in a word sound deaden your door,first take your doors apart and either use raamat, secondskin or some kind of deader, you must apply it to the outer inside door first cover the whole door, then do the same to the inner door leave openings for your wires and handles do this to both front doors, you will be supprise how much much better those speakers will sound.you can get more info over on caraudio.com.[/url]
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