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Old 12-12-2004, 04:29 PM   #21
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Wait a minute, you got some 6.5'* to fit without modification? They just drilled into the wholes for the 5.25'*? This is something I would like to look into. Do you have any troubles with the excursion of the speaker hitting the door panel, or the magnet hitting the back of the door? I must know more about this!
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One thing i want to do whenever i work on my door panels, is strengthen the door. Make a metal support bracket that goes from the speaker area, to the door metal. Like a strut bar i guess.
Yep just like Jason said: Strengthen the door speaker area and that should help your midbass.
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Well, ive decided to try this 6x9 modification. Im giong to the junk yard tonight to find a bonneville (92-95) with the pocket and im going to seal it and use it as an enclosure, find everything that rattles and stop it, and i'll get back with results and pics of this.

Im going to cut the hole bigger, and use the grill that came with my 6x9'* on them. I'll bet i wont even need subs after this with 2 sets of 6x9'*!
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if u get lucky you can find a 92-93 with the 4x6 in the door
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look i'll save you guys alot of stress. YES 6x9'* will fit in the front doors . Or at least they do in my 95. I have pioneer 4-way 6x9'* in my front doors on panels that i made behind the stock grills. to address the "cheap plastic" rattle issue i used alot of dynamat. about 6 square feet per door. So now your asking me how it sounds with 4 6x9'* huh? I can't tell you because my rear spekers are 10s. I'll get you guys some pics later this week. If anyone in the chicago area want to have this conversion done, I'll do it at work (best buy in north riverside il 60456). It will cost about $200 start to finish and that includes the dynamat. I am an MECP First Class certified installer, and run the mobile entertainment department at my store. Any questions just pm me because i mainly stick to the performance fourms. hope this helps.
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6.5'* fit without modification?
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Does anyone have any experience with the Pioneer "Rev" series 6.5" speakers? They are supposed to have quite a bit of bass and also clear highs. They have gotten really good reviews at sounddomain.com Their frequency range is 30Hz-32kHz which is the largest range I have seen. The mounting depth is 2.5 inches, so is this too deep? If it is could I use spacers?
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the REV is the Top of the line for the Pioneer, I think that they produce a good clear sound, but you could look into a set of 6x9'* with components or a 6x8' with components
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Does anyone have any experience with the Pioneer "Rev" series 6.5" speakers? They are supposed to have quite a bit of bass and also clear highs. They have gotten really good reviews at sounddomain.com Their frequency range is 30Hz-32kHz which is the largest range I have seen. The mounting depth is 2.5 inches, so is this too deep? If it is could I use spacers?
~ I'd stay away from odd shaped speakers (6X9, 4X6, 5X7), they will throw the staging off. I haven't messed with Pioneer speakers so I dont really know much about them but the 6.5" is a good choice if you can get them to fit. As for the depth and spacers, I haven't ripped open my bonne'* doors yet but I'm sure someone will plug in!

~ You have to also look at what the +/- dB range is on the freqency responce. It may say 30Hz-32kHz BUT it will be +/- 3 dB, which means in that frequency responce there could be 6 dB difference inbetween one frequency to another - WHICH is HUGE! - Remember for every 3 dB it is twice as loud. On high End Speakers they will have a +/- 1 dB. They also may say 30Hz but I bet you will have to cross them over at lowest 80Hz with a 12 dB slope. I wouldn't recommend crossing them over any lower because then the slope will have to be steeper and they will not be able to blend into any sub(*) you might have. Also they say 32kHz BUT the radio will only play up to 16kHz and CD'* 20kHz.
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Does anyone have any experience with the Pioneer "Rev" series 6.5" speakers? They are supposed to have quite a bit of bass and also clear highs. They have gotten really good reviews at sounddomain.com Their frequency range is 30Hz-32kHz which is the largest range I have seen. The mounting depth is 2.5 inches, so is this too deep? If it is could I use spacers?
~ I'd stay away from odd shaped speakers (6X9, 4X6, 5X7), they will throw the staging off. I haven't messed with Pioneer speakers so I dont really know much about them but the 6.5" is a good choice if you can get them to fit. As for the depth and spacers, I haven't ripped open my bonne'* doors yet but I'm sure someone will plug in!

~ You have to also look at what the +/- dB range is on the freqency responce. It may say 30Hz-32kHz BUT it will be +/- 3 dB, which means in that frequency responce there could be 6 dB difference inbetween one frequency to another - WHICH is HUGE! - Remember for every 3 dB it is twice as loud. On high End Speakers they will have a +/- 1 dB. They also may say 30Hz but I bet you will have to cross them over at lowest 80Hz with a 12 dB slope. I wouldn't recommend crossing them over any lower because then the slope will have to be steeper and they will not be able to blend into any sub(*) you might have. Also they say 32kHz BUT the radio will only play up to 16kHz and CD'* 20kHz.
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