O.K. so back in the day i remember Eclipse being a top of the line thumpin speaker, So how are they now?

eclipse are not exactly what i would consider top of the line, but as far as readily available retail equipment - you cant really beat their headunits - they make great sounding and loud subs - i can only imagine that the speakers would still be nothing but very good quality, especially if you buy one of the component set-ups, but it has been a while since i have heard anything, and there is a lot of preference involved

yah i really do not know much about speakers but my headunit now versus my clarion proaudio headunit (which was a great headunit), there is no comparison at all. Eclipse blows it out of the water, but personally I have not dealt with their speakers.

I don't know about speakers, but my uncle'* Eclipse head unit is one of the best I've ever seen, and his Eclipse subs are da bomb.

I was thinkin about getting a pair of Eclipse 12" or being cheap and going to wallmart and getting a set of 12" Sony'* and a Sony 1000 Watt Amp, not sure yet.

Well, from what I've seen, Eclipse is definitely not going cheap.

he is not saying that they are cheap....he is saying that the sony'* are cheap....and they are...

they call them sony explodes for a reason save your money and buy something other than sony

x2 on that i have yet to hear anything god about sonys audio products

I will agree that the speakers are crap. I did have the silver-faced MP3 player (FX-770MP I think it was, or something similar to that number) and that was the first Sony headunit I actually liked. The electronics are great for entry level systems, but stay away from the speakers.