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Old 10-15-2007, 08:22 PM   #1
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Default 2 constant +12 volt wires (ignition harness)

EDIT: Is the red/white thick wire from the ignition harness a 2nd constant 12 volt wire?




Doe the 92 SSE have a immobilizer in it and what type of door locks does this car uses?
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if memory serves me, yes it has a factory immobilizer (cuts fuel I believe) and the door locks use a negative (ground) trigger.
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Vats....the great immobilizer.

You can measure the resistance on your key and then add a resistor into the wiring for the VATS to disable it.
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Use a 5 pin relay to disable the vats. Wire it up to that when the relay is at rest, the VATS system works like normal, but when the remote starter is activated, it energizes the relay and connects the resistor to the circuit. That way the VATS is not actually disabled. Just bypassed temporarily.
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Use a 5 pin relay to disable the vats. Wire it up to that when the relay is at rest, the VATS system works like normal, but when the remote starter is activated, it energizes the relay and connects the resistor to the circuit. That way the VATS is not actually disabled. Just bypassed temporarily.
Yes, this is the correct way of doing it WHEN using a remote start system. I cannot stress this enough!
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Thanks I don't even know what a relay is or look like I believe. The remote start system I have has on-board relays I just need to bypass the VATS. How would I measure the resistance on the key? Does anyone know the color of the VATS wiring for a 92? Thanks
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To measure the keys resistance, get a multimeter and set it to OHMS, then put one lead to each side of that little chip thing n the middle of the key shaft. Find a resistor of that value. The VATS wires are orange. Itll be 2 thin wires with a cover that goes over both wires and hooks up to the ignition.
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ok thanks, I got the remote start already hooked I just need to accomplish this bypass.
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Heres I drew a diagram of how the VATS should be hooked up to your remote start.

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Heres I drew a diagram of how the VATS should be hooked up to your remote start.

I can post actual diagrams, but I'd get yelled at by the mods.
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