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Old 01-02-2007, 10:21 PM   #31
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Hi Darcy,

Thanks for the info on the connectors. This is very interesting, as this is what I have attached to my male dock 'n lock connector....a lovely ribbon cable!

http://www.xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?t=60987&start=45

Are you saying that behind this ribbon cable are the actual audio wires?

One thing I can say is that if you have Onstar you will most likely already have the proper pins on your connector since I believe Onstar relies on the same Left Audio / Right Audio pins as the CD Changer does; they simple take turns on who gets to speak

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Yikes!

Okay, this is not how the 02 Bonneville was done. Worse yet, this is a pic of a flexible printed circuit. These are generally even more difficult to work on that a true ribbon cable. I'd be very interested in knowing where the other end terminates.

OnStar doesn't share the input with the disc player. There is a separate input on the radio for cell communications. Pin A7 is the Cellular Telephone Voice Low Reference and A8 is the Cellular Telephone Voice Signal.

There may very well be another option for you... Let me check the service manual. More info to follow...
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Hey Chris,

Okay, in 2001 the Aurora wiring connects in differently than 2002-03. In the later years, it seems they changed to the style I spoke of previously (individual wire conductors to the Dock-N-Lock).

In 2001, the 12 disc player connection is made into connector C215. This is a "GT Lever Lock 40 way (Brown) connector". The manual describes it as "LH Body Harness Inline to IP Flat Wire Harness". From the look of the picture in your post, this makes a lot more sense. The manual says this is located "In the center of the IP, under the dash pad (body harness to the IP flex harness).

The audio connections into C215 are as follows:

C7 - Audio COMMON.
C8 - RIGHT Audio (+)
C9 - LEFT Audio (+).

C215 should have four rows of terminals and they should be embossed with references so you will know which is row A, B, etc. This being the case, there may be no change required to the harness included as part of the 12 disk player install package.

If you need the connection point for 2002-03 let me know. As I say, they have changed it yet again.
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If you need the connection point for 2002-03 let me know. As I say, they have changed it yet again.
Wow, that is great information, thanks! Unfortunately I have a 2002 (produced in July of '01, one of the first 2002s out the door), if you have a chance I'd love to hear where that CD Changer cable 'splices' in....

I appreciate all the help, we'll figure this out one way or the other!

For the others reading this thread, it appears there are two varieties of 'dock and lock' connectors out there. It looks like Darcy had wiring behind his connector in his 2002 SE, whereas I have a ribbon cable in my '02 Aurora. I'd be curious to see what others have, whether it be a ribbon cable (see the link in my previous posts to a picture of it) or wheter you actually have wiring behind there.

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Cfoote, the 2002 Aurora Navigation radio doesn't support the cd changer. it did in 2003 however.
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Cfoote, the 2002 Aurora Navigation radio doesn't support the cd changer. it did in 2003 however.
Dan, are you sure? The 2002 NAV manual makes specific mention of the CD Changer. The option sheet even mentions it comes with the 12 disc CD Changer for the 2002 Model Year.

http://www.geocities.com/aurora402002/option

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Cfoote, the 2002 Aurora Navigation radio doesn't support the cd changer. it did in 2003 however.
Dan, are you sure? The 2002 NAV manual makes specific mention of the CD Changer. The option sheet even mentions it comes with the 12 disc CD Changer for the 2002 Model Year.

http://www.geocities.com/aurora402002/option

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Sorry, maybe I'm thinking of the BOSE stereo then? I know it was either the cd changer or the BOSE that wasn't available on 2002 with the navigation radio.
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Sorry, maybe I'm thinking of the BOSE stereo then? I know it was either the cd changer or the BOSE that wasn't available on 2002 with the navigation radio.
No need to apologize, just checking

Yeah, it was the Bose that was not available in 2002...
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OK Im bringing this on back

I just went to the dealer.... i asked about the 12 Disc Install Kit for the Bonneville. I got the Part Number of 12497568, ok GREAT.....they are discontinued from GM ....so at this point i think im screwed.....BUT THERE IS HOPE im told

there is a dealer in Kentucky that has one available...yes ONE, the last one in existance.....never to be made again

its currently on the way to me

I believe that i still need the Doc and Lock connectors to make the connections at the radio??

i will keep everyone updated on the status of this install
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