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Old 12-17-2007, 12:33 PM   #1
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First I must mention that it has been WAY to long since I have been on this forum and my Bonnie is starting to feel the difference. I have a few different problems that have developed as of late that I need your assistance and knowledge for.

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Water Leaks.....
A couple a weeks ago the sunroof " deflector"( hope that is the right name for it... got that from parts.com) completely broke in two on day as I was closing the sunroof. Almost immediately afterwards I started having water that would drip in a couple different places on the inside of the car. To include, the top outside corners of the windshield of both driver and passagner side as well as from the top center console where the garage opener and reading lights are. I also have water that gathers in the floor boards of the back passanger side. I am thinking that some of this is the sunroof but I think I may have a door leaking as well.... not sure though. How hard are these "Deflectors" to replace? Parts.com was offering one for only 46 bucks.

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Seat Heaters
You hit the button, the light on the button comes on, and then shuts right back off again leaving my butt very cold..... thinking that something has shorted out as a result of the recent water issues. Passagner side went first, then the drivers about a week later.

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Interior lights.
The fuse for my interior lights keeps blowing. Once again thinking it could be due to the water. Funny how water and electricity don't seem to get allong very well.......



Thanks for your input in advance guys!
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For sunroof you can do a search and find alot of info in 2000up section.You can pull off the plastic pillars(they just pull off) that run along the sides of your windshield and thats where your drain tubes run and end up behind the rear of your front tires( behind the plastic wheelwell covering).You will have to pull your ceiling down a bit to follow to corner of sunroof.Pour water in sunroof drain and watch where it is coming in.
I have had 1 rear drain come apart at the sunroof and both front drains come apart in the dash to wheel well area and drain on to the floor and soak the carpet.(when carpet is soaked it is best to pull it out, this will also make it easy to find the leak.I
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Are there drains running off all four corners or just one in front and one in back?
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WOW... this is going to suck... any suggestions for someone who does not have the space, equipment or time to completely gut the inside of my car?
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duct tape the sunroof shut from the outside?
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lol.... should have seen that one coming!

well..... this is very un-nerving.... just went out side to the car.... pulled the back seat up, removed the passanger mid-pillar cover and pulled up the carpet on the passanger floor.... and what did I find? Standing water under the carpet. Guess I am not going to have any choice but to strip out everything I can and try and do something about this.
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well... other then pulling up the carpet like I already did I guess the first logical step is removing the head board andpillar coverings to expose as much of the drains as possible....... is the head board held up by clips or something else?
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here is what my standing water did.

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ght=rust+floor


remove the A, B & C pillar trims
remove the visors
remove the grab handles

at this point the headliner is only held in by the velco straps and the door weatherstriping. if you work it around the headliner you shouldnt have to remove the weatherstriping.

might be better to remove the front seats to be able to get the headliner out without creasing it. you will probably get it out one of the rear doors. you will have to bent it slightly, be careful.

I don't have any pics specific to this job, but here is one after you get it out
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o.k. well... I got the head liner out and I am looking at the drain hoses... starting at the connections where the drain tubes meet the sun roof frame and working all the way down to where they dissappear behind the dash and rear seat back... I am not seeing any cracks, kinks, or bad connections....

What I am seeing is that the front drivers side drain tube has a zip tie around the connection to the sunroof frame. Seems to tell me somebody already had this problem before I bought the car.

now... when I pulled the cover off the front drivers pillar, there was standing water inside the grooves of the cover , so that one is obvouisly having issues. Surprise, Surpise since it is the one with the zip tie on it....

How do these drain tubes typically get sealed to the sunroof frame? (Besides zip ties.. )
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