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Old 06-17-2009, 09:05 AM   #1
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Default UGGH!! I just got the news, it needs a trans overhaul....

Ouch, so I have been putting up with the Bonny needing an EPC valve and intermittently shifting too hard or soft, but now it never shifts into fourth gear. The tranny shop said it may have shifted hard into fourth and stripped the teeth off of the hub...may as well rebuild and start over. Do you guys have an idea what a total overhaul should typically cost me?
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My transmission guy says 2000-2500 depending on what he finds when he gets in there. Does this sound reasonalble? I have known this guy 20 years. He told me he would drive it until it wouldn't go before spending the money. He said I wouldn't believe the number of people in his career who have spent this on an older car, then totaled it a few days/weeks later, and didn't get enough from the insurance company to pay the transmission bill. Seems to make sense to me. I told him my fear was breaking down on the road. He says that is unlikey to happen. It would probably gradually get worse. But he did say keep a wreckers phone number handy just in case! Opinions welcomed. I plan to dive this 2001 Bonnie another 150,000! I guess I don't have a choice but to spend the money when the time comes. sure less tan a new car.

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I have a good local highly trusted shop, they said $1,500-$2,000 depending on what they found. I am concerned that since it stripped teeth off the hub, that they may circulate and do more damage if I continue to drive it.....If I spend the money, I will just keep this car and drive the wheels off of it!! I am kind of disappointed, my sons' '88 regal sold @ 194k, running strong on the original tranny, my '95 Lumina (now owned by my neighbor) is still going strong @ 225k, original tranny, maybe I have been spoiled?!? I always service my cars & take good care of them.....I did this one too?! This car has started to nickel & dime me, about $2,000 in the last year.....
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Ebay,

you would have to investigate the seller rating before buying but this may be a good option to at least look into if cost is a factor. You may find a good deal.

If not it is like $2000 to $2500 I believe at a local shop.

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So here is the bill....ouch! Any comments?!?
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I am about to need to make that same decision. $2,000 transmission overhaul, or get another car. I hate to spend $2000 on this one, but a newer car would cost more, and possibly start nickle and diming me to death. At least with this one, I know what I have. I'm thinking about doing what you did. Do you feel that you made a good decision, now that it'* done?
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Have you considered used parts? I became a fan once I realized the pricing difference. Depending on where you buy the parts...warranties and deals can happen.

A local place sells transmissions for 3-500 with a 6 month unlimited mile warranty. My car unfortunately needs something with a bit more behind it, but for other cars....I'd do it.

The loss of fourth gear is a common failure as is the EPC soleniod. The EPC failure is most common 2000+, the 4th gear failure is a 4T65 transmission built before 2003 failure. They didn't put a hardened 4th gear shaft in and over time the teeth become sharp with wear until one day there'* not enough left and they give. Some shops might pull that side fo the subframe, and replace the various pieces for you, but most will want to have it fully rebuilt.
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I am about to need to make that same decision. $2,000 transmission overhaul, or get another car......... Do you feel that you made a good decision, now that it'* done?
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Well, given my current $$$ situation, I did what was best for me for now...but again, this car has been nickel & diming me for the last year to the tune of $2,000. I hope I am done now, if it continues, then this will turn out to have been a mistake....

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Have you considered used parts? I became a fan once I realized the pricing difference. Depending on where you buy the parts...warranties and deals can happen.........The loss of fourth gear is a common failure as is the EPC soleniod. The EPC failure is most common 2000+, the 4th gear failure is a 4T65 transmission built before 2003 failure..........Some shops might pull that side fo the subframe, and replace the various pieces for you, but most will want to have it fully rebuilt.
Used parts.....I've been burned in the past, their warranty doesn't cover labor to replace used parts that are defective warranty. I have a very good local family-owned trans shop that has done the best of work for me for two decades now, so I would not consider anything else when I have a resource here......they replaced the fourth gear hub with an aftermarket forged piece that I would not have gotten with a used trans, 12 month 12,000 mile 100% warranty, no questions asked. so, we will see if the rest of the car holds up!!

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Yeah, I understand and figured you guys weren't aiming to do the labor. I'm a little crazy and willing to change out a trans.
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I am about to need to make that same decision. $2,000 transmission overhaul, or get another car. I hate to spend $2000 on this one, but a newer car would cost more, and possibly start nickle and diming me to death. At least with this one, I know what I have. I'm thinking about doing what you did. Do you feel that you made a good decision, now that it'* done?
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So, one year and 15,000 miles later follow-up:
Needed new brakes front & rear, $444.43 worth of brakes installed by me; (ok, I bit it & seriously upgraded!)
Got the dreaded "Wobbly front end-gonna need a hub" thing going on....next on my list.
Oh yeah, the transmission is great! It doesn't miss a beat, I guess I feel that I made the right decision so far...........
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