Tachometer Issues - More added! PLEASE HELP
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Originally Posted by markwb
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I spoke to Toasty and mentioned he should test his coils and look over the ICM.
Mark..where does tach signal come from on 00+? I think it'* still derived from ICM???
Mark..where does tach signal come from on 00+? I think it'* still derived from ICM???
so what does this mean to me, other than it seems that my guage defauled to 0
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Well, it could mean that there is a fault in that part (engine speed) of the PCM, or the Crankshaft Position Sensor is beginning to act up especially since you mentioned stalling & hesitation. If you can look down there and do close up inspection of crank sensor for any dirt or crud, also pull the wiring connector off the ICM and inspect pins & receptacle for any corrosion or dirt.
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Originally Posted by markwb
Well, it could mean that there is a fault in that part (engine speed) of the PCM, or the Crankshaft Position Sensor is beginning to act up especially since you mentioned stalling & hesitation.
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If you can look down there and do close up inspection of crank sensor for any dirt or crud, also pull the wiring connector off the ICM and inspect pins & receptacle for any corrosion or dirt.
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Could the connectors at the PCM itself be loose? I'd check the connectors to the PCM for loose, or frayed wiring. Other than that, I can't think of anything else that could cause this other than a bad PCM, or ICM.
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The scanner is the best approach like Pdad says. Once you establish whether or not the fault lies in the PCM or the Instrument Panel Cluster you can go from there. I'm thinking it'* not the IPC side of the tach. I'm leaning more toward PCM, ICM, or Crank.
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Originally Posted by markwb
The scanner is the best approach like Pdad says. Once you establish whether or not the fault lies in the PCM or the Instrument Panel Cluster you can go from there. I'm thinking it'* not the IPC side of the tach. I'm leaning more toward PCM, ICM, or Crank.
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I think it could be the crank sensor area, the sensor reads 2 sets of interupter rings on the back of the crank pulley, 1 with 12 notches and 1 with 3 notches.
It maybe the sensor itself or debris or misalgined rings.
But without a scanner its just a guess.
It maybe the sensor itself or debris or misalgined rings.
But without a scanner its just a guess.
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Originally Posted by PontiacDad
I think it could be the crank sensor area, the sensor reads 2 sets of interupter rings on the back of the crank pulley, 1 with 12 notches and 1 with 3 notches.
It maybe the sensor itself or debris or misalgined rings.
But without a scanner its just a guess.
It maybe the sensor itself or debris or misalgined rings.
But without a scanner its just a guess.
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Originally Posted by toastedoats
Originally Posted by PontiacDad
I think it could be the crank sensor area, the sensor reads 2 sets of interupter rings on the back of the crank pulley, 1 with 12 notches and 1 with 3 notches.
It maybe the sensor itself or debris or misalgined rings.
But without a scanner its just a guess.
It maybe the sensor itself or debris or misalgined rings.
But without a scanner its just a guess.
with the scanner will i get readings for both stes of rings or just a single reading....? What us the functionality of each of the rings?/ is one tach/ICM related and the other fuel related?
Now if your tach is dead (reads zero) and the pcm shows 1000 rpm (for expample) then the problem is between the pcm and the tach or the tach itself.
The 18x reference ring is used for ignition and the 3x is used by the pcm.
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Originally Posted by PontiacDad
Originally Posted by toastedoats
Originally Posted by PontiacDad
I think it could be the crank sensor area, the sensor reads 2 sets of interupter rings on the back of the crank pulley, 1 with 12 notches and 1 with 3 notches.
It maybe the sensor itself or debris or misalgined rings.
But without a scanner its just a guess.
It maybe the sensor itself or debris or misalgined rings.
But without a scanner its just a guess.
with the scanner will i get readings for both stes of rings or just a single reading....? What us the functionality of each of the rings?/ is one tach/ICM related and the other fuel related?
Now if your tach is dead (reads zero) and the pcm shows 1000 rpm (for expample) then the problem is between the pcm and the tach or the tach itself.
The 18x reference ring is used for ignition and the 3x is used by the pcm.
If the scanner reads zero, and so does the tach, then i have a pcm, or CPS issue then..
On another note, on the information that mark gave above; If when a fault is detected in the engine speed, then the tach is defaulting to zero, should it be staying there until the next start cycle???
If not, then by the time i get to scan the sensors, the signal would be correct, but the guage will read 0, due to the past fault