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Old 08-10-2003, 03:07 PM   #11
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Yeah after seeing Whisky98'* ride my engine bay looked a LOT bigger.
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Its going to be POS for just a moment while you try to stop the knuckles from getting blood all over the SSEi... Than you can say I blead for you, you better be good to me...
Yeah.. Changing wires messed me up a lot, still got some scars from that, and that was a month ago. o2 wasn't much better, but it wasn't as bad. now 3" dryer Duct, that stuff is not cool.
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If you get under the car the rear plugs and wires are 10X easier to change than doing it from up above. Get under the car and it will make a huge difference, it is almost impossible to do them from above.

Oh, and don't put your stock wires back on, or you will regret it the next time you change your plugs.
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Hmmm a word of wisdom...... Always have some good extensions, and swivles(spelling) and a good ratchet... Expect a few ground knuckles, and a husband and wife cursing GM for their design... Eventhough they love the car to death... Its going to be POS for just a moment while you try to stop the knuckles from getting blood all over the SSEi... Than you can say I blead for you, you better be good to me...
Lol...good tip! Now I know who'* doing the changing when the time comes (*calling out* Honey...you'll change the sparkplugs right? The guys on the forum said it was easy ).

Seriously though, I expected that...we were going to try wearing some light work gloves to protect hands a little, and I'll probably end up doing it because my hands and arms are small (I'll bleed for my car :P ).
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If you get under the car the rear plugs and wires are 10X easier to change than doing it from up above. Get under the car and it will make a huge difference, it is almost impossible to do them from above.

Oh, and don't put your stock wires back on, or you will regret it the next time you change your plugs.
When you say "get under", do you mean with a lift because we, unfortunately, don't have access to one...or did you mean that you can actually reach them while laying under the car? (With blocks under the wheels of course..side note: to anyone reading this, please always use blocks when under you cars; my uncle was killed when a jack gave while he was under his son'* car changing the oil).
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or did you mean that you can actually reach them while laying under the car
I'll tell you when I jacked my car and put it on stands, It still seemed out of reach for me. Maybe I just felt uncomfortable trying to work under a 4000 lb car but it didnt seem to me like I was getting anywhere with them. I spent 5 hours trying to get the back 3 done (a lot of it swearing). Finally took it to a shop and spent 89 dollars for them to replace the back 3 wires/plugs. I would much rather spend that than risk being crushed, or losing a finger/hand/5 hours of my life. My time is worth more than that..and at least I gave it a good go.

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I'll tell you when I jacked my car and put it on stands, It still seemed out of reach for me. Maybe I just felt uncomfortable trying to work under a 4000 lb car but it didnt seem to me like I was getting anywhere with them. I spent 5 hours trying to get the back 3 done (a lot of it swearing). Finally took it to a shop and spent 89 dollars for them to replace the back 3 wires/plugs. I would much rather spend that than risk being crushed, or losing a finger/hand/5 hours of my life. My time is worth more than that..and at least I gave it a good go.

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If it gives us too much trouble I have a feeling we'll do the same thing (hopefully for less than $89...we have very nice mechanics; a couple days ago they plugged a leaking tire for free ...if it'* $89 though, we'll have to find a way to do it ourselves). Thanks for the info.
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Never underestimate the power of a couple good ramps and a creeper. They save my butt. You'll need fairly low profile ramps for the SSE/SLE/SSEi. Much lower clearance on the front skirt and lower air dam than the SE and earlier generations. If you go shopping for them, ask if you can take a ramp out to the car to test fit it. Mine are close, but clear. If I had low tire pressure, I'd drag the skirt on the way up, but they work great. Also work on the rear if you back up on them.
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Never underestimate the power of a couple good ramps and a creeper. They save my butt. You'll need fairly low profile ramps for the SSE/SLE/SSEi. Much lower clearance on the front skirt and lower air dam than the SE and earlier generations. If you go shopping for them, ask if you can take a ramp out to the car to test fit it. Mine are close, but clear. If I had low tire pressure, I'd drag the skirt on the way up, but they work great. Also work on the rear if you back up on them.
Good tip (my nomination for tip of the day...lol)!
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Never underestimate the power of a couple good ramps and a creeper. They save my butt. You'll need fairly low profile ramps for the SSE/SLE/SSEi. Much lower clearance on the front skirt and lower air dam than the SE and earlier generations. If you go shopping for them, ask if you can take a ramp out to the car to test fit it. Mine are close, but clear. If I had low tire pressure, I'd drag the skirt on the way up, but they work great. Also work on the rear if you back up on them.
Yep those ramps can help... My 95 just drags the ramps, usually I make sure that I have 35-40 psi of air in the fron tires to clear the ramps.... The 91 is the same way, but it sits a tad lower than my 95.... And that creeper makes all the diffrence in the world... The ramps and the creeper were a great cheap investment...
35 to 40 psi?! I had heard that too much air could cause valve stem leaks (I had two of them from filling up cold tires to the warm tire psi, about 34 psi).
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