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Old 06-12-2003, 09:02 PM   #11
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Scott, 1 thing I would like to know is how you jack up the back of the SSEi like you do at the track? And, is there a way to trick the automatic leveling into raising up all the way for the track? Thanks.
Just remove the left rear tire and you'll see the load leveling system actuating lever. Use a 10mm. wrench to loosen the fastener, and rotate the lever all the way forward. Your car will think you've got an INTENSE Race Engine in the trunk and jack up the rear end for you.

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Do you know where I can get the Jet chip, and what does it do? (Shiftpoints, Governor, Fuel Tables, etc..) It is also nice to know that the GP fan switches will work.
The Jet Chip module will not work on the SSEi !
The only way to mod the computer is with a custom burn or you can ship it off to ASEchips in California and they will reprogram it. Only +9 hp. but it does remove the limiters.
The GP Caspers fan switch will not work on the 2000+ Bonnie'* either. Different wiring harness.
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The GP Caspers fan switch will not work on the 2000+ Bonnie'* either. Different wiring harness.
I was thinking of a ZZP Fan Switch. I know it is different than the Caspers but I am thinking the ZZP Fan Switch wont work too?

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Just remove the left rear tire and you'll see the load leveling system actuating lever. Use a 10mm. wrench to loosen the fastener, and rotate the lever all the way forward. Your car will think you've got an INTENSE Race Engine in the trunk and jack up the rear end for you.

Hope this helps.

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Thank You Scott. That definately helps, as long as it works it is going to be great. Any tips on launching an SSEi? GTP'* are easy, but whats different about SSEis? Just do a big burnout with slicks and nail the gas or what?
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Just remove the left rear tire and you'll see the load leveling system actuating lever. Use a 10mm. wrench to loosen the fastener, and rotate the lever all the way forward. Your car will think you've got an INTENSE Race Engine in the trunk and jack up the rear end for you.

Hope this helps.

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Hey, I tried your advice but the lever does not rotate at all. There is no play in it either way. The 10 mm bolt just fastens the actuator to the frame. The rod is not adjustable either.
Are you sure this works for a 2000 model ?
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Default SSEi and GTP mods

You can use almost all of the drive train mods for the GTP on the SSEi. I have 2001 GTP and a 2002 SSEi. My SSEi has


Thrasher CAI - this is for GTP and needs to be cut to fit different shape of the engine bay.

Thrasher 3.25 Pulley - all the smaller pulleys and pulley systems should fit SSEi.

Thrasher./TOG Headers - this will bolt right on along with flex pipe. However, you will need the dip stick tube/indicator from a 1997 GTP (year specific). Thanks - Scott Cook!!!

SLP Rockers and Pushrods - these will go right in, like the Intense rockers/rods. My decision to go with SLP rockers was in part based on installation and warranty reasons. SLP is only a hour or so from my house. The intense rockers give you a extra degree of lift (1.8 vs 1.9). Scott was also the first vendor to offer this product for the 3800SC - so your purchase rewards his investment and fuels continued innovation!
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You can use almost all of the drive train mods for the GTP on the SSEi. I have 2001 GTP and a 2002 SSEi. My SSEi has
I know this. It is kind of obvious because they have the same drivetrain. I was really wondering what was available for reprogrammed PCM'* and exhausts. Since those are 2 things that are different then the GTP I came here and asked. I also knew the Thrasher Intake would fit with some modifying, but I was wondering if there was a different one that fit without modifying. The things I asked about are the things we are interested in getting for our SSEi, and they just happen to be different than the GTP. Our GTP is not slow, so we know what to do to the engines to make them go, but I was hoping that some of this stuff that I am interested in would be available for the SSEi'* and it evidently is not. Thank you for all the help though.
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You can use almost all of the drive train mods for the GTP on the SSEi. I have 2001 GTP and a 2002 SSEi. My SSEi has
I know this. It is kind of obvious because they have the same drivetrain. I was really wondering what was available for reprogrammed PCM'* and exhausts. Since those are 2 things that are different then the GTP I came here and asked. I also knew the Thrasher Intake would fit with some modifying, but I was wondering if there was a different one that fit without modifying. The things I asked about are the things we are interested in getting for our SSEi, and they just happen to be different than the GTP. Our GTP is not slow, so we know what to do to the engines to make them go, but I was hoping that some of this stuff that I am interested in would be available for the SSEi'* and it evidently is not. Thank you for all the help though.
DHP will do a custom programming for the SSEi. I believe Scott Cook is using a custom DHP chip.

The SLP intake should fit without modification. This is similar in size and shape to stock airbox on GTP/SSEi with cone filter inside.

You can also check out bonnevilleattitude and domestic performance for CAI made specifically for the Bonneville - plus a ram air hood! They also offer loweing springs, big brakes (13" front and 12" rear), plus konni adjustable struts for the Bonneville.
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I would highly recomend a set of headers. This made a hugh different in my car throughout the powerband - especially with the 3.25 Pulley. The SSEi does not have a ubend and the rest of the exhaust is pretty free flowing. The TOG Headers with flexpipe (in place) of down pipe should really open you up.

I am surprized you are seeing so much KR with just 3.4 pulley. I put one on a week or two after getting the car, and didn't notice any weakness up top. I haven't autotyped the car, so can't back that up with any numbers.

I put my rockers and pushrods in after doing headers/flexpipe, CAI, and 3.25 pulley. The rockers gave me even more top end pull, plus the engine is now much smoother and freer reving. I think the lightweight pushrods and roller arms really made the difference. What are specs on I-win rockers?
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I am surprized you are seeing so much KR with just 3.4 pulley. I put one on a week or two after getting the car, and didn't notice any weakness up top. I haven't autotyped the car, so can't back that up with any numbers.
We drove the car a year and a half with all this KR and didn't know it was there. It still has plenty of power everywhere. The KR isn't as noticable as it is on the GTP, when the GTP got 7kr (which it got for about 10 miles because we turned around and put a bigger pulley on), it had no power anywhere, this is not the case with the SSEi. When I put the Autotap on it I was actually very suprised that it was getting KR. Now that we have autotapped a little more we figured out that once we installed the rockers it was still getting 5 degrees of KR. Since the rockers should've made a bigger difference than 2kr we looked into some other things, and it was running really lean. It had 02'* of 845. Now that we have richened it up with the Mini-AFC and got the 02'* to 910 we are down to very little or no KR at all. But with all the mods it has, it is rediculous that it just barely gets 0kr.

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DHP will do a custom programming for the SSEi. I believe Scott Cook is using a custom DHP chip.
I thought I heard that DHP would do that somewhere, but nobody on this forum seemed to know about it, so I figured that wasn't the case. And I sure hope Scott Cook using a custom chip.

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I would highly recomend a set of headers. This made a hugh different in my car throughout the powerband - especially with the 3.25 Pulley. The SSEi does not have a ubend and the rest of the exhaust is pretty free flowing. The TOG Headers with flexpipe (in place) of down pipe should really open you up.
I do not know that we are going to do mods as big as headers for the SSEi. We just want a couple things so it is fast enough to be able to pull out into traffic and get out of people'* way. I know the SSEi doesn't have a U-Bend but the downpipe is as restrictive, if not more restrictive than the GTP'*. The downpipe is the most restrictive part of the exhaust except the manifolds, so TOG Headers with the Flex pipe would definately make some major power over the stock exhaust. But yes, after the cat the exhaust is pretty free flowing, although we are probably going to get a Borla anyways if they come out like I read they were going to.

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What are specs on I-win rockers?
The I-Win rockers are identical to the ZZP Rockers. I-Win is the company that ZZP bought its rockers from. When ZZP stopped selling the rockers and started selling Intense rockers, I-Win started selling them with their own name. ZZP Rockers were almost identical to the Intense Rockers, which are 1.91:1. ZZP Rockers were 1.9:1. Other than that, they were exactly identical. So really I could say it has ZZP Rockers and nobody would know the difference. The rockers did exactly as they should've and gave the SSEi better topend power but it is still lacking, and it didn't seem that they made as much of a difference as they did in the GTP.
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