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Old 12-21-2005, 12:04 AM   #11
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95SLE, that is the red one we are considering. I requested a quote from the dealer, but they havent gotten back to us. I am guessing since we are 2 hours away they ignored the request. But it is the closest one to where we live.

She doesnt need the power of the GXP, but the one deal that was better than an SLE was tempting. Plus my whole love affair with HUD.
I called Allstate (our current insurance co and we are happy with them) and the GXP is 100 something a year more. I find it funny that they dont offer a discount for side airbags.
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Go for it great car... Oh yeah we will ask for photos when and if you get it! Great car, (I am biased once agian). I love my SLE and its styling and performance you mother will not be sorry. The chrome wheels also look great! Is this for her or for you?
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Her. But when we go someplace we take her car, she complains my car rides too harshly. I am getting a company car soon and i am considering an electric blue G6 GTP coupe. Sucks GM doesnt offer HUD in them
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SkiBum so are you getting it? Because if so I have to see it! Did the dealer quote you and if so what price if I can ask?
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We requested 2 quotes on the Red SLE, still no response. What we will eventually do is bring the quote to our local dealer and see if they can beat it and then they can get the car for us. Plus our local dealer offers 10 year 100k mile warranty on all new cars. We have both been very busy. I think she is going to wait untill next week to make a decision.
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Good luck do you get her old SLE?
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No, i believe she is going to give the car to her sister who needs a car and has no money. I like the car, but i love my car much better. It fits me better. Plus my seats are so much more comfortable and i have HUD (no need to tell about my love affair with that )
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Alright then it stays in family!
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GXP or SLE.. hmmm... GXP!

And what is it with all you guys saying that the 3.8 NA is more reliable than the 4.6 northstar? Are you really serious? Even after seeing SO many 3800'* with the intake failure and the bottom end being destroyed by coolant leaking into the engine, you still say that the 3800 is totally bullet proof and better than a Northstar. Maybe I'm just crazy, but I haven't heard of any northstar engines of late EVER having problems with coolant leaking internally into the engine or hydrolock etc that the 3800 is getting known for. If anything they have small problems that could be an annoyance, but for the most part you don't have to worry about the engine hydrolocking or SEIZING one day. (it'* rare.) The older northstars from the mid/early 90'* had problems, sure, but that'* when it was a brand NEW engine and design. The later model northstars ARE reliable engines. It gets old always hearing "the northstar sucks" like some parrots yet nobody seems to have a definate answer why the 3800 is so 'superior.' Modability is not a valid answer. Our 2000 SLE with 62,000 miles already has a coolant leak problem with the throttle bodyAND the engine leaks oil out of the intake and valve covers. Our SSEi leaks so much oil that you can smell it burning as you come to a stop or the car is idling. Both cars have gone through a water pump as well. My 'northstar' engine has had ZERO problems with similar mileage. (52,000 miles VS the SSEi'* 58,000 and the SLE'* 61,000.) It leaks no oil or coolant whatsoever and no, it doesn't burn any oil either.

To me, if the northstar was such a "bad" engine, then why the hell woudl GM be using it in its PREMIUM vehicles. They wouldn't. Cadillac wouldn't be using these engines if they were junk. GM wants to build a reputation of their expensive cars being reliable and powerful. The northstar engines are premium engines from GM. They aren't made so much to be sporty, they're made to be luxury oriented.
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no body ever said the northstar was bad..

i know my car only leaks a tiny bit of oil from the rear valve cover, and no coolant at all (i use just over 1/2 quart between oil changes) and my aurora has leaky crank seals, and pukes out roughtly 2 quarts every 3000
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