1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

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Old May 5, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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If it"* directly related to the brake pedal check the vacum hose and the checkvalve that it conects to on the brake booster, that would be agood place to start looking anyways.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 01:59 AM
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Could it be the ABS acting up? My dads van does the same exact thing even though it'* not even a GM... Fire it up and hit the brakes as you put it in gear and the ABS kicks in for a second cuz there is a tooth missing on a gear the ABS uses and it always sees when you first put it in gear.

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Old May 6, 2006 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by McGrath
Could it be the ABS acting up? My dads van does the same exact thing even though it'* not even a GM... Fire it up and hit the brakes as you put it in gear and the ABS kicks in for a second cuz there is a tooth missing on a gear the ABS uses and it always sees when you first put it in gear.

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Not likely. The ABS doesn't activate until you start moving. That'* when it does it'* self-test.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by willwren
Originally Posted by McGrath
Could it be the ABS acting up? My dads van does the same exact thing even though it'* not even a GM... Fire it up and hit the brakes as you put it in gear and the ABS kicks in for a second cuz there is a tooth missing on a gear the ABS uses and it always sees when you first put it in gear.

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Not likely. The ABS doesn't activate until you start moving. That'* when it does it'* self-test.
Will, I've heard that the ABS system can apply the brakes all by itself. Is that true?
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Old May 6, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Dillon
Originally Posted by willwren
Originally Posted by McGrath
Could it be the ABS acting up? My dads van does the same exact thing even though it'* not even a GM... Fire it up and hit the brakes as you put it in gear and the ABS kicks in for a second cuz there is a tooth missing on a gear the ABS uses and it always sees when you first put it in gear.

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Not likely. The ABS doesn't activate until you start moving. That'* when it does it'* self-test.
Will, I've heard that the ABS system can apply the brakes all by itself. Is that true?
when my car is wacked, and the WSS were not working correctly, the brakes would apply with the gas pedal... so yes
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Old May 6, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by harofreak00
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Could it be the ABS acting up? My dads van does the same exact thing even though it'* not even a GM... Fire it up and hit the brakes as you put it in gear and the ABS kicks in for a second cuz there is a tooth missing on a gear the ABS uses and it always sees when you first put it in gear.

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Not likely. The ABS doesn't activate until you start moving. That'* when it does it'* self-test.
Will, I've heard that the ABS system can apply the brakes all by itself. Is that true?
when my car is wacked, and the WSS were not working correctly, the brakes would apply with the gas pedal... so yes
Oh, Gawwwddd, Will, sorry
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Old May 6, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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No, the brakes cannot apply by themselves. They can fail to LET GO, but not apply by themselves.

Bob, you're
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Old May 6, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by willwren
No, the brakes cannot apply by themselves. They can fail to LET GO, but not apply by themselves.
disagree... what do you think about my story?

i could press the gas and the brakes would apply more and more as more gas was applied.. if i tapped the brake pedal it would release the brakes and i could drive the car with the gas and brake(slightly engaged)... all of this until my low trac button would ding off....

yes the car is fucked up
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Old May 6, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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HERE we go! !

So, Will, time for a double dose of the blood pressure meds, eh?
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Old May 6, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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The first thing I'll point out is that the torque management and TC in a 2k is alot more different than the 96 we're talking about here.

TC and braking were working correctly on Haro'* car, as there was an underlying reason it felt TC needed to be used.

ABS itself is incapable of applying the brakes. It 'unapplies' them to maintain control. TC in his case was applied ONLY if he tried to accellerate.

Stabiltrak is an odd system that I am not as familiar with as I should be, but is not on the 96 in this topic.
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