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what year did the UIM & LIM stop being a problem

Old Oct 18, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Ok heres the deal, my 98 Bonnie has 206k miles and I believe the UIM was replaced before I bought it. I don't notice any coolant loos or smell etc but im gun shy. Is this gonna fail again ? Do I dare drive it on vacations , Is it hard to replace or fix ? I am kinda sorta looking out for a replacement car (not retiring mine yet) just a stand by. Either a bonnie, Lesabre Limited or Park Ave with leather probably 2000 or 2001 with say 60-70k miles. What would be the best for me in reguards to UIM and LIM problems ? What do I look for ? And with this many miles would it already have ben done ? Or ready to be done again ? Thanks again fellas !
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If the car has the L36 engine with the composite upper manifold, you can not escape the possible upper intake failure.

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If the car has the L36 engine with the composite upper manifold, you can not escape the possible upper intake failure.

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Also, never underestimate the lower intake gaskets. They're just as prone to failure as the UIM.
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mine HAS been replaced a few years ago am I ok ? Is this a repair I can make ? What to look for when failing either upper or lower,thanjs
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From what we may be recently learning, no year of the L36 engine is completely immune from the UIM/LIM failure. It is believed that in 1999 (I think), the UIM was improved, but we have been starting to see failures on 2000+ Bonnevilles. I would assume that the UIM failure is still possible on any 2000+ model, no matter if it is a Pontiac, Buick, or Chevrolet.

As for your current Bonne, just keep a close watch on the coolant, but I am assuming that at your mileage, fresh LIM/UIM gaskets and a check of the UIM couldn't hurt.
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Metal LIM gaskets, the Dillion Intake and the Buttermore EGR are the best solution as or right now
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Please read this Techinfo article: http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...e=article&k=38

I think that starting in 2004, the composite upper was replaced with aluminum, and I believe these newer engines carry a new RPO code other than L36. Someone will chime in to verify. The problem certainly does exist for '95-'03 L36 engines. And that'* a lot of vehicles.
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