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Old 04-27-2006, 11:14 PM   #1
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I really hope I don't need a rebuild, but here goes it....

Coming to a stop today, the trans never downshifted. I pressed the accelerator and nothing happened . I coasted over to the side of the road only to find out that I lost 3 & 4 . 1 & 2 work, but there is a bad "shudder" to the car in both gears when pressing the gas, plus a delay before going into either gear. Reverse seems fine. I checked the fluid and it looked & smelled fine.

I haven't noticed any major slipping , although (before the above happened) if I went from reverse to 4 , there was a second or 2 delay until it shifted into Drive. The car has 134K.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Well, at 134k, you're WELL beyond the typical rebuild time. Sounds like your "B" Solonoid is having issues. But those issues may have been caused by something letting go upstream, so it'* probably not as simple as changing the solonoid and moving on. With those miles, EVERYTHING is about to go in that trans.

She'* served you well.

I suggest a good quality professional rebuild, and seriously consider a shift kit from either INTENSE or ZZP. This will actually help extend the life of the rebuild by reducing wear and tear on the friction surfaces.
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Yes I agree, with those kind of miles it seems that she has had a good run. Time to show the old girl some love and get a rebuild.
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Well, at 134k, you're WELL beyond the typical rebuild time.
How so?... Many S2'* here are beyond the 134K mark and going strong. Let'* not try and scare everyone into a rebuild because they crested a 100,000 miles.
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Well, $2700 :( (taxes included), its all fixed. I feel ripped off and almost took my car somewhere else, but after they already took it out, I didn't feel like spending $500, plus having to take it somewhere else. I figured it'd end up costing me just as much having it towed somewhere else.

They installed/replaced ; master overhaul kit, drive chain, filter, fluid, reman torque converter, 2 bands, washer kit, forward sprag, 4th clutch hub & solenoid. $1427.36 in parts, $1090 in labor, misc/tax $173.86 . It has a 3 year/36K warranty, but I still feel like I got raped.

The trans does feel smoother , at least its back on the road again.
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Well, at 134k, you're WELL beyond the typical rebuild time.
How so?... Many S2'* here are beyond the 134K mark and going strong. Let'* not try and scare everyone into a rebuild because they crested a 100,000 miles.
I agree with *****,,, see alot of trans going strong over 100,000k like mine,
properly seviced and not beat on too bad tranys should see well over that......
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Wow.. Did they replace all the electronics or replace all the parts with updated, hardened versions? That was an awfully high price for a standard rebuild.
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Wow.. Did they replace all the electronics or replace all the parts with updated, hardened versions? That was an awfully high price for a standard rebuild.

depends on location, $2500 is normal around here with a 1 year warranty. 3 year warranty is pretty much worth it alone....good to hear you got it fixed up though.
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That price is trending towards the high side for a standard rebuild, but not too far out of the realm of reality. If it'* a reputable shop known for quality work, you did OK.

I STRONGLY suggest an INTENSE or ZZP shift kit. It can extend the life of the trans, increase performance AND reliablility AND efficiency. The 4T65E shift kits can be self-installed, but the 4T60E kits cannot.
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