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Old 11-15-2004, 11:22 AM   #1
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It'* been real cold here the past few nights (high 20'*) and the car just isn't getting warm at all. its got a 180* stat but very rarely ever comes even close to the 175* mark. so where can i get a 195* because i see to be having problems finding one... Thanks.
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Have you checked AutoZone or Advance? If you can't find one there then the dealership should definitely be able to get you one.
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On a side note.. This part maybe a concern for you.. and the other.. is just me lookin for a few answer in relations to it.. hope you don't mind me sponging your post a bit.. too lazy to start mulitiple threads bout it.. so here goes

1.) Does stores in Canada other then GM carry the T-stat housing gasket? When I changed mine.. it tore.. so I'm pretty sure if I keep changing it back and forth from 195 and 180 T-stat for winter/summer that I would have to replace the gasket most of the time.. unless someone has special trick to keep the Gasket in good condition when the housing keeps gettin open twice a year or so.

2.) I was wondering also cause I"m running under the 1st mark before the 90C temp.. and math says I'm running 160~171.5ish F I always thought 180 don't open till 180F and closes at that.. or does it actually mean fully open @ 180F ?? so it will start opening before 180F ??
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1.) Does stores in Canada other then GM carry the T-stat housing gasket? When I changed mine.. it tore.. so I'm pretty sure if I keep changing it back and forth from 195 and 180 T-stat for winter/summer that I would have to replace the gasket most of the time.. unless someone has special trick to keep the Gasket in good condition when the housing keeps gettin open twice a year or so.
Canadian Tire carries thermostat gaskets separately - $0.99 each. I can get you a part number if want it. When I did my thermostat last month, I bought an extra one just in case I tore one. They carry seals separately also (about 2 or 3 bucks).
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1.) Does stores in Canada other then GM carry the T-stat housing gasket? When I changed mine.. it tore.. so I'm pretty sure if I keep changing it back and forth from 195 and 180 T-stat for winter/summer that I would have to replace the gasket most of the time.. unless someone has special trick to keep the Gasket in good condition when the housing keeps gettin open twice a year or so.
Canadian Tire carries thermostat gaskets separately - $0.99 each. I can get you a part number if want it. When I did my thermostat last month, I bought an extra one just in case I tore one. They carry seals separately also (about 2 or 3 bucks).
that would be greatly appreciate the part # please for both ??? 99cents? Is that the o-ring you're refering to? The gasket that fits between the engine block and the T-stat housing GM charged me $7 before tax I believe.. but that was 2 years ago.
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Yes, it'* the paper gasket between the T-stat housing and the engine block. $7, eh? Why am I not surprised? For $5 or $6, you can get a cheap T-stat with gasket at Walmart and throw the T-stat and use the gasket (I've done that once).

The seal is the O-ring that fits on the top part of the T-stat. I'll get you both part numbers tomorrow.
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I just today picked up a thermostat, gasket and seal for a '93 SSE. I'm not in Canada, but it may help you anyway. All prices U.*. Borg/Warner thermostat 13849 - $4.59. Felpro gasket 35534 $1.52; Felpro seal 35486 $1.74. These are from a local auto parts store, not a national chain.
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Thats not a bad idea.. I can get the 195 that way since it will only be used in winter ( as long as I can get a failsafe version of it) .. but is there a better gasket then the paper style gasket? I'm, sure when I switch it back to 180 T-stat that it would probably tear the flimsy paper gasket apart

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You stated the felpro..is that the same as the paper gasket? I'm guessing not.. so it'* thicker?
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Yes, paper gaskets will almost always tear upon dismantling, but they do seem to do the job when first put in (i.e., no leaks). The Cdn Tire part # for the seal is 17-4290-6 ($2.99). They don't list a gasket for a 97, but it should be the same as the 93 (17-4226-2) - $0.99.

I figured why spend more if a $0.99 part does the job.....
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Yes, paper gaskets will almost always tear upon dismantling, but they do seem to do the job when first put in (i.e., no leaks). The Cdn Tire part # for the seal is 17-4290-6 ($2.99). They don't list a gasket for a 97, but it should be the same as the 93 (17-4226-2) - $0.99.

I figured why spend more if a $0.99 part does the job.....
Thanx.. so which part # is which?
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