Tire Noise - GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Chev, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat


1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-09-2008, 09:35 AM   #1
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
Thread Starter
 
LeSabreUltra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 494
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
LeSabreUltra is on a distinguished road
Default Tire Noise

Yup, I have ANOTHER problem... :(

This noise has been happening ever since I rotated my tires. I assumed it was just uneven treadwear that would even out, but it hasn't.

It'* kind of a thumping noise that increases frequency with speed. It'* associated with a slight vibration in the wheel. It'* not that loud or that extreme with the vibration, and the vibration and sound pretty much disappears at speeds above 30 or 40 mph. It'* coming from the left front. It doesn't seem to get worse as I turn unless a lot of weight is transferred to the left front wheel, such as in braking or a hard right turn. Even then, it'* probably not bad enough that anyone riding can feel it, but I can feel it through the wheel.

My tires are pretty old and probably need replacing soon, but I just can't afford it now...

Any chance it could be something simple, like a flat spot or a tire that isn't round? I sincerely hope it'* not a wheel bearing.

I have to say, my luck has been downright rotten lately. My Buick is a plethora of expensive problems:

Needs new tires
Needs new PS pump (coming soon)
Needs new shocks and struts, probably mounts and bearings too
Needs new airmix actuator or airmix door
And now this...

Engine and transmission are sound though (knock on wood).

My truck which was supposed to be my daily driver so I could keep the Buick out of commission and work on these problems died the other day in a way that screams expensive too. Other than that, fortunately it is okay (knock on wood again).

I keep them both well maintained, neither have had a problem in over a year and then they all come at once, of course. And I have $194 to spend on repairs.

Oh well, that'* my problem I guess. Any help you could give on this tire noise?
.
.
.
LeSabreUltra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2008, 09:57 AM   #2
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Ames, Iowa
Posts: 3,066
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
bill buttermore is on a distinguished road
Default

It is the sound of bad tires. Usually a separated (or poorly laid) internal belt. The only cure is better tires.
bill buttermore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2008, 10:13 AM   #3
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
Thread Starter
 
LeSabreUltra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 494
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
LeSabreUltra is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bill buttermore
It is the sound of bad tires. Usually a separated (or poorly laid) internal belt. The only cure is better tires.
Thanks, I'm glad it'* just the tires. Since it just started I have a feeling it'* separated.

They are GoodYear Regatta II tires so they're pretty nice tires. Or were, anyway.

Would they be safe to travel on for a while?
.
.
.
LeSabreUltra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2008, 10:44 AM   #4
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 7,030
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
lash is on a distinguished road
Default

Good call, Bill!

I was going to say that, as I've had it happen to me before....no really!

And yes, since the tires are old, it is a likely cause. You can often see it if you take a real close look at the tire, both sides. It can look like a slight bulge or bump in the sidewall. Sometimes it'* hard to see unless you get the tire in the air and spin it, looking for variation as it moves.

If you have to, I suppose you can drive on it for a while though I'd hesitate to do so at highway speeds. It really is time to replace 'em.
lash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2008, 10:48 AM   #5
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
Thread Starter
 
LeSabreUltra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 494
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
LeSabreUltra is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lash
Good call, Bill!

I was going to say that, as I've had it happen to me before....no really!

And yes, since the tires are old, it is a likely cause. You can often see it if you take a real close look at the tire, both sides. It can look like a slight bulge or bump in the sidewall. Sometimes it'* hard to see unless you get the tire in the air and spin it, looking for variation as it moves.

If you have to, I suppose you can drive on it for a while though I'd hesitate to do so at highway speeds. It really is time to replace 'em.
Thanks for the recommendation...I'll check into getting that done at the end of next week when I get paid. In the meantime, the truck goes into the shop so I can use it as my DD again.

Any good recommendations for tires? I have the 16" touring wheels. I'm looking for good tires that don't cost too much.
.
.
.
LeSabreUltra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2008, 11:31 AM   #6
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 7,030
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
lash is on a distinguished road
Default

When it comes to tires, I always recommend the best tires you can afford (within reason of course). This means that you should avoid no-name and off-brand tires unless someone you know and trust has used them for a long time without issue.

If you don't have the cash ready right now, you can use the tire dealer'* 90 days same-as-cash cards they push, just be sure you pay it off before the 90 days are up or you get nailed by high interest charges and back interest too. I'll admit to having done that way back in the day, before I could afford to cut loose with $400-500 for good tires.

Just remember that your tires are where the power is put down to the road. It'* the first step to safe driving and avoiding wrecks, IMO.
lash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2008, 12:16 PM   #7
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 281
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
93RedSled-SSE is on a distinguished road
Default

LaSabre, a testimony on tire shopping...
If you are an internet shopper at all, I highly recommend checking out www.tirerack.com.
They offer BUNCHES of tires from cheap to not as cheap.. all the brands ... no sales tax, no excise tax, no tire disposal fee and good prices to start with. Their search process allows you to see everything or just certain categories according to performance. 2-day FedEx shipping runs roughly $12 per tire. They also provide a list of installers according to your zip... AND ... will drop ship directly to one of the installers so you don't have to haul them. My installer doesn't charge as much as listed on the site and calls when they arrive to set up a day for install.

Even if you do NOT want to go w/Tirerack, you can use the site to research tire facts, specs, reviews, etc., before you visit your local dealer. I have 4 vehicles and they all wear tires from tirerack. And NO, I don't work there or own stock in the company. Just a happy customer.
93RedSled-SSE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2008, 12:54 PM   #8
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
Thread Starter
 
LeSabreUltra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 494
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
LeSabreUltra is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks for the recommendations guys. Tirerack.com does have some really good prices, but apparently the nearest "approved installer" is 29 miles away. I'll definitely keep them in mind though.

I remembered that I do have a CD maturing in a month and a half. This will be more than enough to get my truck fixed, these new tires, and my Buick'* PS pump fixed. I'll hold off on the shocks and struts...they're a little squishy and clunky at times but not completely gone yet. Same for the ECC...it'* not my daily driver. And it still works for now but I can always roll the windows down.

I guess things are looking better. Only problem is someone is going to give me hell for using part of the CD for that but they'll just have to be strong.
.
.
.
LeSabreUltra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2008, 09:38 PM   #9
Senior Member
Posts like a 4 Banger
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Posts: 100
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
statusplease is on a distinguished road
Default

I had the worst shake in my car the other day, and it ended up that on the INSIDE of the tire, the read and sidewall started to SLIGHTLY seperate... it made my wheel shudder, and it got worse the slower I went... ( at 50 or so it didnt show itself much ).. I'd bet it'* the tire(*).
statusplease is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2008, 05:49 PM   #10
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
Thread Starter
 
LeSabreUltra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 494
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
LeSabreUltra is on a distinguished road
Default

Well, I got some new tires put in today. I decided to go ahead and go to the extra expense to know I'm getting some good tires. I got 4 Michelin X Radial tires for $520 which included free lifetime tire rotation and balancing and Sam'* Club. They have an 80,000 mile warranty.

After having driven them, I can say the difference is like night and day...

The strange twitch in the steering I associated with a failing power steering pump is gone. The thumping noise and vibration has completely disappeared. There are MUCH less vibrations transmitted through to the passenger compartment, meaning less rattles. They are MUCH quieter too, I can't hear the road much even on the worst road surface. Random clunks I used to associate with bad struts up front has disappeared. The wheel turns much easier and the car seems more effortless with these tires.

Overall: Quieter, smoother, good quality/warranty, awesome!

Power steering pump is still bad though. That gets changed Monday.
.
.
.
LeSabreUltra is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tire squeal/ weird noise Tragz 1992-1999 2 10-02-2006 01:12 PM
Tire time, this is my last tire question, I promise hugger10 Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning 4 09-07-2006 09:30 PM
Noise at specific speeds, sounds like tire noise but isn't? billha 1992-1999 13 04-25-2006 02:13 AM
98 Bonnie front right sounds like tire noise?wheel bearing cvc 1992-1999 7 04-14-2005 03:18 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:09 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.