Steering rack/ratio vs. the Grand Prix for quicker steering. - GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat


1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-08-2003, 06:52 PM   #1  
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Cheyenne WY
Posts: 328
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
brminder is on a distinguished road
Default Steering rack/ratio vs. the Grand Prix for quicker steering.

This'll test the hardcore GM guys.
Is the steering ratio of the rack and pinion on the Grand Prix quicker than our cars?? If so, and I realize that this is probably a stretch, but would it be possible to swap them out so we could have quicker responding steering?
I drove my secretary'* '95 T-Bird, (RWD), and I loved how quick the turn-in was. Felt much more sporty. I realize that we're driving family boats, but it would be nice to have crisper, quicker steering.
Maybe the boys at ZZP or Domestic or Angry Duck could look into this. Maybe it would just be a simple swap of some parts.
brminder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2003, 07:13 PM   #2  
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
willwren is on a distinguished road
Default

I can do some quick comparisons and get back to you. Email me a reminder, and I'll get this done asap, unless someone else jumps in with a definitive answer.
willwren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2003, 11:09 PM   #3  
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Cheyenne WY
Posts: 328
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
brminder is on a distinguished road
Default

I'm sure there'* somewhere to go for this, but I don't know where.
brminder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2003, 11:39 PM   #4  
Member
Posts like a V-Tak
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hastings, MN
Posts: 94
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
2000 Silver SSEI is on a distinguished road
Default

Before my bonneville i had a 96 mercury cougar and loved the steering. But i think alot of it has to do with the car being rwd because, it can turn much easier and tighter.
2000 Silver SSEI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2003, 06:13 PM   #5  
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Cheyenne WY
Posts: 328
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
brminder is on a distinguished road
Default

I'm sure some of it has to do with RWD, but I think it would nice to have more responsive steering. The initial turn in of the tbird was nice, made it feel sporty and responsive. I realize our cars are set up more with Grandma in mind and not someone wanting to carve corners.
brminder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2003, 07:44 PM   #6  
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Cheyenne WY
Posts: 328
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
brminder is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks JR, that does help. I've actually got a '96 Olds 88 LS, which is between the LSS and the plain 88. It has the rear anti-sway bar, but I don't know which suspension it has. I'll do some research.
When you say the costlier rack is more responsive, does it have less turns lock to lock, with a quicker ratio or what?
I would imagine one could swap in the rack you're talking about, couldn't they? Mine'* experiencing the GM cold weather stickiness with 128,000 miles on it.
brminder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2003, 06:34 PM   #8  
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Cheyenne WY
Posts: 328
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
brminder is on a distinguished road
Default

I've got the FE1
But from '96 on, do all these cars have the rear anti-sway bar? Mine does, and I thought I'd seen posts where guys without them were thinking about installing them.
I'd think if I had the base suspension that I wouldn't have the bar... unless all our bodied cars got them.

Anyhow, a quicker more responsive rack should bolt right up, shouldn't it?
How many turns lock to lock does everyone get on their particular model?
brminder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2003, 03:19 PM   #10  
Senior Member
Certified GM nut
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
Posts: 1,838
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
95BonnevilleSESC is on a distinguished road
Default

briminder,

The FE1 suspension does have a rear anti-sway bar, it'* just wimpier. I have the FE1 suspension and plan to do the swap. It should entail the following:

Rack and Pinion
Front and Rear anti-sway bars
Springs
Struts/shocks
All applicable bushings.
95BonnevilleSESC is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
98 grand prix gtp rack and pinion bjones636 Introductions for new members 5 08-13-2013 04:08 PM
'96 SE looking to make quicker bonnie&justin Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning 19 01-02-2006 04:50 PM
Bonneville, Grand Prix, Grand Am, Monte Carlos...... stb4224 General GM Chat 6 11-20-2005 05:36 PM
L67, no SC belt, alot quicker than I anticipated! dbtk2 Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning 3 05-29-2005 11:16 PM
I want to get quicker, not faster 97 bonneville needs pickup kippc Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning 5 01-07-2003 09:15 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:19 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.