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SSE still sitting too low in the rear HELP please

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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Does this car just have air level ride? Or does it have the suspsension system that you can push the button to control how it handles? If it has the latter, then Wilwren is 100% correct... I thought you only had air level ride, the "dumb" system that only reacts to the height sensor. I'm sorry if I read your first posts wrong.. Mike
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sonoma_zr2
the elc is a component of the ride system, if you remove it, this is what happens. You would need to get the springs from a non-elc system and replace your current rear springs
thats what i thought...thanks
what does anybody thank about these....whaich would be the best? for replacing with non-elc
http://www.autozone.com/selectedZip,.../selectZip.htm
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http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/de...QQMCCC661.html
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TROYPORT
Does this car just have air level ride? Or does it have the suspsension system that you can push the button to control how it handles? If it has the latter, then Wilwren is 100% correct... I thought you only had air level ride, the "dumb" system that only reacts to the height sensor. I'm sorry if I read your first posts wrong.. Mike
Mike, CCR (computer command ride) has absolutely no effect on ride height.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Default HOW TRUE!!

Willwren, yes, how true.. The CCR only adjusts the valving rate (for lack of a better word) within the strut, has nothing to do with ride height... I miss-read what he has, I thought he only has "dumb" air leveling rear.

Aren't those CCR suspensions problematic? My motherinlaw has a 99 SSEi with CCR, no problems yet.. I've driven it and don't feel a heck of a lot of difference between soft and firm (or whatever they call it) - I seem to feel more of a difference when playing with the tranny selection.. but all in all, not worth it really.. Just my opinion.
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check my previous post......thanks
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Mine works on my 95 SLE. Very subtle difference. Good quality non-CCR feel much better on my 93.

In this case, I think the topic author would do much better to replace the rear struts and compressor and go back to ELC.
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and it'* xtra xtra sqeaky with every bump and dip from the back
Look for your grease zerks on the lower suspension near the bottom. I had the same problem, shot some grease in there and volia it'* nice and quiet now.
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I thought CCR=ELC.

I know I don't have CCR. How can you tell if you have ELC?

If I have plain ol' struts, I could be in the market for some lightly used ones... hint hint.

I was going to get KYB GR-2s, though.

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This topic is actually someone else'*, but I'll briefly explain to you.

If you don't have FE2, you don't have ELC in a Bonneville from 92-99. If you don't have the trunk utility inflator next to the trunk latch bar, you don't have it.

CCR is totally unrelated to ELC. Some cars have both, some cars may have neither, some cars may have one and not the other.

CCR came out for the first time in 1994. Replacement struts are HORRIBLY expensive.

ELC is a critical calculated part of the FE2 rear spring rate. A common mistake made is not knowing this, and deleting it. ELC struts are actually gas struts, but with air assist. They are NOT air struts.
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