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Old 04-03-2008, 01:29 AM   #31
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Before you spend your hard earned cash on parts, need to be sure your Bonnie hasn't been clobbered in the rear, causing all this. I experienced this on one of my convertibles. When it was rear ended (previous owner), one corner of the rear was bent DOWN. The body shop didn't get it straight and one corner sags at least an inch. I'm saving up my coins to completely strip it and do it right.

I hope this is not your problem, but it has a lot in common with my old vert. SOMEbody needs to dig in and do some eye-ballling and measuring up under there.

i did have the entire back bumper off at one point about 2 months ago and i wasnt looking for damage or anything similar but i sure did not see anything out of the ordinary..

so what do i do.. jack the car up in the rear and take off the tires and set the car on jack stands from undernaeath the hub like a wheel was on it on both sides in the rear and then measure the height from the ground to the wheel well'* and then measure what else.?

i will be doing this tomorrow night...
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:44 AM   #32
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The *** end of my Bonne used to sag bad on the pass. side.
Turns out that the ball joint "socket" on the Control arm wore out, and then the ball joint just popped out of the hole.
35 dollars at the welder'*, and it'* not given me a problem since.
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I can see in the pix (top of tires with wheel well shown) that driver side is about 1/2 to 1 inch lower than the passenger side.

More important than the height of the top of the wheel well is the "in and out" measurement of the hub front surface with respect to the outer edge of the fender. It is important that the suspension be supporting the weight (like you said above) so that the hubs don't dangle and throw things off. This measurement will validate that one hub is further out than the other, allowing you to zero in on that problem. I have a feeling the unequal height (can see it in your pix when compared to the sidewall dimension of the new tires) will be caused by whatever is throwing off the placement of the hubs (in and out). Here is what I was talking about:
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I agree with bonnieNclyde. If you start eyeballing the suspension parts, bushings, etc., that you will find the issue.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:17 PM   #34
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im not good at eyeballing especially if i dont know what im looking for.. and i dont have no friends that could help me. my only friend is car stupid...

so i just went and paid $236 for monore sensa trac gas struts and a set of new springs..

my 88 died on me and i cant figure out whats wrong so i have to try what ever to fix the 95 se...
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I am betting on struts and springs, but It would have been a good idea to check the measurements like was mentioned above.

Either way, the car probably needed them anyways. When was the last time they were replaced?

It might actually be a good idea to take the car to a suspension / alignment shop BEFORE you put the struts on. Pay the $50 or so and have them do a complete check of all your suspension components. Put your stock rims and tires on first and tell them nothing about the problem you were having untill after they check it out
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It might actually be a good idea to take the car to a suspension / alignment shop BEFORE you put the struts on. Pay the $50 or so and have them do a complete check of all your suspension components. Put your stock rims and tires on first and tell them nothing about the problem you were having untill after they check it out
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[quote="crash93ssei"]I am betting on struts and springs, but It would have been a good idea to check the measurements like was mentioned above.

Either way, the car probably needed them anyways. When was the last time they were replaced?

im guessing by the condition of the car when i bought it last year ( NEVER )

it was filthy with all sorts of minor issues/ worn tires and brake pads bad catco and 02 sensor.. i think the old owners who had several cars just got in and drove it all the time and nothing more...

i cant find a shop that will inspect my suspension but only do the wheel alignment.. pa sucks in some ways...
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problem found


some of you guys were right... the damn rims were installed wrong..
( they were installed upside down )




so i decided to go ahead and start taking the wheels off and inspect everything..

so i supported the hub with a jack stand and un screwed the 2 top bolts for the rear strut that are in the trunk abouve the wheel well and guess what happened next,
go ahead just guess....

thats right the damn strut just fell and had no pressure to push it back up.

so the bacically i was only riding on a spring on that side..

thats great news to me.. so now i started to remove the strut and attemp to put the new one in but i cant get the 2 big bolts on the bottom by the hub assembly out at all.. i triued the impact gun and i even tried the breaker bar and some good ol grunting and it did not budge.... any ideas or am i doing it wrong...?



and sorry for the whole wheel upside down thing but i though it would be funny since somne said it was an installation error when they put the new wheels on..

i had no idea that you could put on wheel on so wrong the car would sag a whole 1 inch lower...

infact in moved in and out as easy as a straw in a mcdonalds cup
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well im glad u found the problem.

im putting my rims on today..( same size as yours )
im crossing my fingers i dont have any issues..

oh.. and ill make sure i dont put them on upside down..
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o.k im almost done installing the new struts but monroe did not put in the instruction sheet how to assemble the dust boot and bumper peices so that the strut mount can go down far enough for me to put the bolt on that holds the strut mount to the strut...?

can anyone help please.. im in the garage now and im at a stop trying to figure this out..

i would really appericate it..

let me no if you'* need some pics and i will get them up fast...
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