Rebuilding 4t60e transmission
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From: Lethbridge, Alberta, _______Canada._______ West Coast Bonneville Fest ___05,06,07 Survivor___
People go to school to become ASE certified in Automatic Front wheel drive transmissions. My old Mechanics teaher who has been a Journeyman since 1970 said he would NEVER tackle a fwd auto, he said its far to complicated a mater, its literally more of a science how it all works, and what peices go were. You would get 1/2 way through it and get overwhelmed and think, what am i doing. Some things are better left to the pros.
It would be easier to buy a re built tranny, and install it your self.
It would be easier to buy a re built tranny, and install it your self.
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Hey OSG...my friend is a Factory trained certified GM mechanic. He won't touch them.
And until you get the parts off the dirty wet moldy garge floor where they are currently rusting and having mice leave turds on them ... I'm not sure you are the one I'd like to see suggesting transmission rebuilds.
And until you get the parts off the dirty wet moldy garge floor where they are currently rusting and having mice leave turds on them ... I'm not sure you are the one I'd like to see suggesting transmission rebuilds.
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If you would like to tackle it, go ahead, its not me, and its not my car, the current recomondation from the forum is no, let us know then how it goes, if it works, and if it was worth it.
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Originally Posted by opensourceguy
Billybooo.. not everyone is like you. Some people are more ambitious than others. Alec is an extremely smart kid.. he knows what he'* talking about.
Lakeville: The transmission break down is also in the Factory Service Manual [FSM]. I'm pretty sure it'* the same as in that book you recommended. I've seen both, but only own an FSM. I don't see a difference.
The biggest problem you will run into, is removing the engine/trans. That scares me more than taking apart the tranny.. but that'* beacuse i'm only one guy, and a young, weak 15 year old at that. The 2nd biggest problem is having a large enough, sterilized area to actually disassembly everything in. It is extremely important everything be kept SPOTLESS. You don't want a piece of dirt ruining your hard work, now do you? Third biggest problem is getting QUALITY parts. Not sure where you'd go about getting them. JCWhitney has the rebuild kit for the TH-440-T4 [87-91 Transmission], but i'm not sure if I'd want that going into my transmission [no clue about it'* quality]. So just be aware of that too.
IMO, if you have all the necessary information [break downs, dis/assembly procedures], and are mechanically capable [probably a good way to proove this is if you aren't daunted by the pic Dr. Jay posed].
Also, the reason why Transmission shops have a low success rate on rebuilding FWD transmissions, is probably because they have HS dropouts working there. Or because their documentation is poor [like a Haynes Transmission rebuilding manual
]. Plus owning the car makes you more cautious, especially if you have the love and determination for that car to rebuild a FWD auto trans.
-justin
Lakeville: The transmission break down is also in the Factory Service Manual [FSM]. I'm pretty sure it'* the same as in that book you recommended. I've seen both, but only own an FSM. I don't see a difference.
The biggest problem you will run into, is removing the engine/trans. That scares me more than taking apart the tranny.. but that'* beacuse i'm only one guy, and a young, weak 15 year old at that. The 2nd biggest problem is having a large enough, sterilized area to actually disassembly everything in. It is extremely important everything be kept SPOTLESS. You don't want a piece of dirt ruining your hard work, now do you? Third biggest problem is getting QUALITY parts. Not sure where you'd go about getting them. JCWhitney has the rebuild kit for the TH-440-T4 [87-91 Transmission], but i'm not sure if I'd want that going into my transmission [no clue about it'* quality]. So just be aware of that too.
IMO, if you have all the necessary information [break downs, dis/assembly procedures], and are mechanically capable [probably a good way to proove this is if you aren't daunted by the pic Dr. Jay posed].
Also, the reason why Transmission shops have a low success rate on rebuilding FWD transmissions, is probably because they have HS dropouts working there. Or because their documentation is poor [like a Haynes Transmission rebuilding manual
]. Plus owning the car makes you more cautious, especially if you have the love and determination for that car to rebuild a FWD auto trans.-justin
The more posts I read from you, I realize that you are becoming more and more stupid as time goes by. Give it a rest.
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Originally Posted by sse1990
Originally Posted by opensourceguy
Billybooo.. not everyone is like you. Some people are more ambitious than others. Alec is an extremely smart kid.. he knows what he'* talking about.
Lakeville: The transmission break down is also in the Factory Service Manual [FSM]. I'm pretty sure it'* the same as in that book you recommended. I've seen both, but only own an FSM. I don't see a difference.
The biggest problem you will run into, is removing the engine/trans. That scares me more than taking apart the tranny.. but that'* beacuse i'm only one guy, and a young, weak 15 year old at that. The 2nd biggest problem is having a large enough, sterilized area to actually disassembly everything in. It is extremely important everything be kept SPOTLESS. You don't want a piece of dirt ruining your hard work, now do you? Third biggest problem is getting QUALITY parts. Not sure where you'd go about getting them. JCWhitney has the rebuild kit for the TH-440-T4 [87-91 Transmission], but i'm not sure if I'd want that going into my transmission [no clue about it'* quality]. So just be aware of that too.
IMO, if you have all the necessary information [break downs, dis/assembly procedures], and are mechanically capable [probably a good way to proove this is if you aren't daunted by the pic Dr. Jay posed].
Also, the reason why Transmission shops have a low success rate on rebuilding FWD transmissions, is probably because they have HS dropouts working there. Or because their documentation is poor [like a Haynes Transmission rebuilding manual]. Plus owning the car makes you more cautious, especially if you have the love and determination for that car to rebuild a FWD auto trans.
-justin
Lakeville: The transmission break down is also in the Factory Service Manual [FSM]. I'm pretty sure it'* the same as in that book you recommended. I've seen both, but only own an FSM. I don't see a difference.
The biggest problem you will run into, is removing the engine/trans. That scares me more than taking apart the tranny.. but that'* beacuse i'm only one guy, and a young, weak 15 year old at that. The 2nd biggest problem is having a large enough, sterilized area to actually disassembly everything in. It is extremely important everything be kept SPOTLESS. You don't want a piece of dirt ruining your hard work, now do you? Third biggest problem is getting QUALITY parts. Not sure where you'd go about getting them. JCWhitney has the rebuild kit for the TH-440-T4 [87-91 Transmission], but i'm not sure if I'd want that going into my transmission [no clue about it'* quality]. So just be aware of that too.
IMO, if you have all the necessary information [break downs, dis/assembly procedures], and are mechanically capable [probably a good way to proove this is if you aren't daunted by the pic Dr. Jay posed].
Also, the reason why Transmission shops have a low success rate on rebuilding FWD transmissions, is probably because they have HS dropouts working there. Or because their documentation is poor [like a Haynes Transmission rebuilding manual
]. Plus owning the car makes you more cautious, especially if you have the love and determination for that car to rebuild a FWD auto trans.-justin
The more posts I read from you, I realize that you are becoming more and more stupid as time goes by. Give it a rest.
wow....that was bold
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Originally Posted by ssesc93
Originally Posted by sse1990
Originally Posted by opensourceguy
Billybooo.. not everyone is like you. Some people are more ambitious than others. Alec is an extremely smart kid.. he knows what he'* talking about.
Lakeville: The transmission break down is also in the Factory Service Manual [FSM]. I'm pretty sure it'* the same as in that book you recommended. I've seen both, but only own an FSM. I don't see a difference.
The biggest problem you will run into, is removing the engine/trans. That scares me more than taking apart the tranny.. but that'* beacuse i'm only one guy, and a young, weak 15 year old at that. The 2nd biggest problem is having a large enough, sterilized area to actually disassembly everything in. It is extremely important everything be kept SPOTLESS. You don't want a piece of dirt ruining your hard work, now do you? Third biggest problem is getting QUALITY parts. Not sure where you'd go about getting them. JCWhitney has the rebuild kit for the TH-440-T4 [87-91 Transmission], but i'm not sure if I'd want that going into my transmission [no clue about it'* quality]. So just be aware of that too.
IMO, if you have all the necessary information [break downs, dis/assembly procedures], and are mechanically capable [probably a good way to proove this is if you aren't daunted by the pic Dr. Jay posed].
Also, the reason why Transmission shops have a low success rate on rebuilding FWD transmissions, is probably because they have HS dropouts working there. Or because their documentation is poor [like a Haynes Transmission rebuilding manual]. Plus owning the car makes you more cautious, especially if you have the love and determination for that car to rebuild a FWD auto trans.
-justin
Lakeville: The transmission break down is also in the Factory Service Manual [FSM]. I'm pretty sure it'* the same as in that book you recommended. I've seen both, but only own an FSM. I don't see a difference.
The biggest problem you will run into, is removing the engine/trans. That scares me more than taking apart the tranny.. but that'* beacuse i'm only one guy, and a young, weak 15 year old at that. The 2nd biggest problem is having a large enough, sterilized area to actually disassembly everything in. It is extremely important everything be kept SPOTLESS. You don't want a piece of dirt ruining your hard work, now do you? Third biggest problem is getting QUALITY parts. Not sure where you'd go about getting them. JCWhitney has the rebuild kit for the TH-440-T4 [87-91 Transmission], but i'm not sure if I'd want that going into my transmission [no clue about it'* quality]. So just be aware of that too.
IMO, if you have all the necessary information [break downs, dis/assembly procedures], and are mechanically capable [probably a good way to proove this is if you aren't daunted by the pic Dr. Jay posed].
Also, the reason why Transmission shops have a low success rate on rebuilding FWD transmissions, is probably because they have HS dropouts working there. Or because their documentation is poor [like a Haynes Transmission rebuilding manual
]. Plus owning the car makes you more cautious, especially if you have the love and determination for that car to rebuild a FWD auto trans.-justin
The more posts I read from you, I realize that you are becoming more and more stupid as time goes by. Give it a rest.
wow....that was bold
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I could go on, but I won't.
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we seem to be straying off the topic ever so slightly, i think the general concensus is that rebuilding the tranny is a bad idea...and attempting so is definetely not for the faint of heart, whether or not OSG is a dumass, irregardless of the occasional validity of those statements isnt really important, hes been around here a long time, we shouldnt turn on our own...goes against the general nature of this forum...
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