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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Like the title says, the passenger outside key lock fell in. Not that I use the lock on that side ever, but I don't want excess dirt and dust getting in the hole. Plus it looks better fixed.

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Is this easy to do by myself or is it easier to take in into a shop? Any idea on a price for this?

I though it would be a good time for myself to fix it since I am going to replace the stock door speakers. I know that the two pieces are layers away from eachother, but thats one less layer to take apart again.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Easy fix I would assume. I only say that due to the number of times I have had my panels off. Pull your panel off, reach down inside of your door, and scoop it up. What actually made it fall down in the first place we won't know until you open it up. I forget what holds it in place. Possibly a spring clip?? I'm sure a gearhead will come in sooner or later. Guys? Guys!?

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You have the same car I do...
2 screws bottom side of door.
2 BIG screws behind light bar in door panel. (remove light bar)
1 BIG screw behind little panel that WOULD hold the mirror adjust.
1 torx screw behind panel behind the door handle.
After removing screws, gently, but firmly pull on bottom half of door. Panels are still attached with plastic clips. Once clips are clear from door, push up so the seal at the window comes up witht the panel. Otherwise, you will leave the seal in place and see staples! My mistake. Learned from it. LOL
Don't worry about the power window and lock wires. You have enough to pull the panel off and let it drop to the ground for you to work with. Or you can disconnect them.
Did I leave anything else out??
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I think the lock is put in from the front and held in by a clip. Maybe the handle itself broke. Need to go in and find out what broke to be able to fix it.

Unless someone has an fsm page handy with that assembly....any 92-99 FSM would work.
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The lock cylinder is available as a seperate part, part number 12457613, but I have to see if I can find the assembly instructions.

Just a minute...

*runs off for FSMs*
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I have a pair of those handles, same color, with key if ya need them.
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OK, back.....huff, puff...ran too fast....

The lock cylinder is actually installed from the inside and is attached to a lock cylinder rod. The cylinder is held onto a threaded stud on the outside door handle by a nut. So it sounds like maybe yours just lost the nut (maybe still inside the door panel.

The FSM says to remove the outside door handle assemble to replace the lock cylinder, but I would look to see if you can just reattach it from inside the door first.

There is alos a gasket that goes over the cylinder before installing it back in the door handle assembly. That gasket keeps out the rain etc.

Hope this helps.
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i can get a pic (i just threw a complete handel and assy in the garbage) of the back side of the handel if you need it
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Originally Posted by 1993 SLE
i can get a pic (i just threw a complete handel and assy in the garbage) of the back side of the handel if you need it
That would be great.

It is starting to rain, so I'm going to take apart the door tomorrow and see if it is just the nut (hopefully). While I am in there, I'll take pictures so if anyone else runs into this problem.

The door handle still works fine to open the door and no actual locking problems with it. The lock was never used but maybe a few times. Who uses a key when you have keyless? Heh.
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No need...Mike had posted one when I needed it.

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Ok, I went out and fixed it. Here are some pictures:

Another picture of the missing lock:


The door with everything screwed in:


The door with everything unscrewed:


The inside of the lock:


The lock fixed! Yay:


If anyone needs larger pictures of what I did, let me know, because the real ones are huge. And the instructions to take apart the door were really good. The only tricky parts were snapping off a few places.
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