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Old 02-04-2005, 05:33 PM   #1
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according to my stealership it is $487 labor.

I have no real jacks or real big tools so they would have to be purchased.

I have read both hayes and chilton about what to do.

The dealership said this transmisison only worked on the 95 LSS model, none others is this true? here are some rpo codes the rep wrote down along with some other numbers:

M13, MX0,NW9,F79

Code: 5TDW

GM: 19125042
List Price: 1744.54
NOT AT ANY LOCATION ANYWHERE NATIONWIDE


What is the easiest way to drop the tranny, pull the engine+ trans together or drop the subframe and axles and tierods and whatever else?


What are all the tools I really need?

Also how hard is this driveplate thing to do where you mark it? what if it is a different trans?
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i'm a little confused.

are you saying you want to buy one (no parts available anywhere) and are wondering if you can put it in yourself?

first, I'd worry about finding one... just a thought.

anyhew, I don't think I'd recommend a tranny swap to someone who'* not all too familiar with the process. but maybe bill buttermore, or someone else who'* had more experience dropping them on these cars can comment...
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I am saying If I aquire a tranny that is rebuilt, what specialty tools should I have to make the process smoother. Can I just use regular socket wrenches to get subframe bolts off or do I need a compressorf?

Here is what I understand:

Remove cruise control cable.
Detach shifty control linkage and lever at manual shaft
Unplug connectors from neutral start switch
Unplug vaccum modulator
Remove Dipstick tube assembly
Remove upper mounts
Unplug VSS
Detach oil cooler lines
detach wire harness from lower crossmember
remove drive axles
- remove drive axle /hug nut
- remove brake caliper and disc
- remove control arm to steering knuckle balljoint stud nut and seperatre lower arm from steering knuckle
- Push drive axle out of the hub with a puller, and support.
- pry end out of trans

remmove left front mount and the right front mount
take off left rear mount and right rear mount
put a jack under the tranny
remove subframe bolts
take off subframe
take off torque converter cover

mark converter to driveplate relationship (here I am a little confused about installing a different tranny in there)

remove driveplate to converter bolts
Remove lower engine fasteners
using a pribar or large screwdriver pry er off


I can do it with the car 2 feet off the ground right?


I have most tools needed and a garage availlable. Just trash the car or attempt to fix it?
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I have done this both ways, (a: pulling engine with trans, and b: dropping trans) and it is really about the same amount of work either way. You need an engine hoist or crane to pull the motor and trans. To drop the trans by itself, you can use an engine support fixture or engine hanger. You can buy either tool for about $200; but the hoist is more versatile.

Here is the link for dropping the trans:
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...367&highlight=

You do not need special tools to remove the subframe half. I'm not so sure about your driveaxle removal method. I did not need to remove calipers or rotors to do mine.

I am in the middle of working up the description for pulling engine and trans together (drive train is out, working on the engine now) will finish the procedure when I have completed the installation.

I have completed a writeup on drive axle removal and have the "remove" part drafted for the drive train R&R. If you want those, let me know, I can PM them to you.
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I am saying If I aquire a tranny that is rebuilt, what specialty tools should I have to make the process smoother. Can I just use regular socket wrenches to get subframe bolts off or do I need a compressorf?

I can do it with the car 2 feet off the ground right?

I have most tools needed and a garage availlable. Just trash the car or attempt to fix it?
I have a compressor and air tools, but the only thing I needed it for was to chisel apart the rusted sway bar end link spacers

I did mine at 14" under the body frame rails.

You're lucky to have a garage, I had to work in the driveway! If everything else is OK with the car, it is definitely worth it.
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Oh, regarding the trans ID. You can minimize compatibility problems by getting a transaxle with the same ID information, that is; get another 5TDW. Check the ID tag on the trans in your car first, you should see a big TD on the right side of the tag and on the left in vertical format XX5TDW XXXX 5 is the year '95. TD is the model and W is the type.
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