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Old 04-18-2005, 05:13 PM   #1
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well I have been carrying around my camera with me to try and get a shot of when the car dosent start.....now it doesnt do it all the time but its kinda annoying when it does

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=e...ting-clips-002


here is what think could cause it

Bad fuel
clogged injectors
bad starter
battery begining to fail

am I on the right track?
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Clearly sounds electrical to me.

Are the battery connections CLEAN at all ends? If they are, then I'd be looking at the battery or starter. How old is the battery? With such low miles, I'm assuming original starter??
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I'd say that'* classic low amperage, except you say it isn't all the time... You been putting regular water in that battery?

It'* definatly electrical, The clicking sound is a relay/solenoid not having enough power.
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What size alternator are you running? With that system you need at least a 160 amp.
I'd suggest taking it to a shop and have them test the battery, alternator, and starter.
Also, might possibly be the starter solenoid as I know that was a fairly common problem on the VIN C and early VIN L'*.
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Dame...um i have a 950 CCA battery, and you cant add water to it , and yes it isnt all the time

OBE I have a Delco 140 amp Alternator, I have 12 V in the system when the car is off and 14.1-14.4 when the car is on.....that is straight from the digital reading on the 25 farad Capacitor
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Do you have to get it jump started or just have to wait and try again?
Next time it does this leave it in park and rock the car back and forth hard a couple times by hand. If it starts after that my bet is the starter solenoid.
My old 1992 SE and my aunts 1989 Park Avenue would just click sometimes, and we'd wait and try later and it'd start. Just before my 1992 was totalled I found doing the rocking thing helped half the time I did it.
Definitely get the starter checked out/tested. That'* what it sounds like to me.
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Dead battery and or loose/dirty connection....
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Do you have to get it jump started or just have to wait and try again?
Next time it does this leave it in park and rock the car back and forth hard a couple times by hand. If it starts after that my bet is the starter solenoid.
My old 1992 SE and my aunts 1989 Park Avenue would just click sometimes, and we'd wait and try later and it'd start. Just before my 1992 was totalled I found doing the rocking thing helped half the time I did it.
Definitely get the starter checked out/tested. That'* what it sounds like to me.
Nope i dont have to get it jumped, it does the same thing as the Vid. THIS DOESNT HAPPEN ALL THE TIME tho

Ummmmmm im, thinking here........he P/N saftey switch???? i can shift out of park with out putting my foot on the brake?!?!?! could be this be the problem
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The safetly switch wouldn't let you do anything, except light up the dash. You shouldn't get juice to the starter if it'* in gear.
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does the vehicle still have the orig delco battery? regardless the delco batteries are well known for leaking batt acid at the possitive terminal, on some the positive terminal itself pulls out of the battery due to corrosion.

most of the time the leaking acid will drain onto the sheetmetal and cause rusting, but it will also travel down the + battery cable towards the starter/electrical relay/fuse box.

sometimes you will notice swelled portions of the cable...litteraly the copper has turned to copper oxid (green powder) which reduces the amount of current available to the starter, but since it is intermitent in your case I would take the battery terminals off and clean thouroughly and check for the corrosion where the metal ring is crimped to the actual copper cable conductor

for a good test...get a regular DVOM and check voltage directly at the battery and then check voltage at the block ( ground) and the starter + terminal while cranking and KOEO there is also the possibility that the block ground cable connection has corroded or become loose at the block side, this is possible if the car has had recent work done, etc.

good luck with your diagnosis
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