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No Heat on 96
I did I search on the forums on this, but Im gona beat this one to death a little more. I drove my 96 SSE to work yesturday and the heat worked no problem. Car sat over night at work (rained all night) and I drove it home today. Car heated up like normal, but the vents blew out cold air no matter what I did! It would blow colder if I kicked the A/C on, but heat was maybe about 45-50 degrees F tops. I tried burping the coolant system, but got no air out of it and I let it run for a good 30 mins or so with the cap off. Iv regularly changed the coolant so I dont think theres any gunk in there. Any other ideas why the heat would crap out all of a sudden? Thanks a lot!
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If both of your heater hoses are hot, then the heater core is more then likely working. I'm thinking the actuator is not moving. I think Billboost did a write up on that.
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couple links that may help:
A/C Service Tech Tip: How to redirect the cooled air in late model GM cars and http://trialsnuts.com/ecc.pdf both very helpful |
Ok ive finally pin pointed that the air mixer is shot. The temperature is now flashing every morning when the bonneville is started and no hot air or very little. Do someone have the link with maybe a step by step replacement procedure on a 96 bonneville? I cant seem to find one by doing a search. Thank You in advance.
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You can try this thread here. It may have the info you need. There's several broken links that need to be fixed. I'll talk to venom about that.
https://www.gmforum.com/t217162/ |
I was in the same boat as you a while ago. So this is what I did in the mean time before I had enough money/time to fix it correctly.
I disconnected the airmix actuator from the blend door rod going to it. Easy once located just give it a nudge up and it will pop off the plastic clip. Than this way the air mix blend door defaults to full hot. This is good because now you will have heat in the winter time. But it is FULL hot and if you drive for a long distance you will get really hot in side the car. So what I did next is replaced my 195 stat with a 180 stat for the winter. The car heats up good and the cabin inside is very comfortable. But mind you this is not a permanent fix just to get you by. So to get to the airmix actuator rod remove the glove box liner..should be like 4 screws. Than look down the hole on the left to see the top of the actuator and pop up the rod. good to go full heat. If too hot than swap out your 195 stat for a 180... I'll dig up some photos of the glove box/air mix area for you. Todd. |
Thank You guys, where can I find the air mix actuator? I tried Autozone and Advanced Auto and neither of them have it. Is it a dealer only item?
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I bought mine through Auto Parts Fast at RockAuto
It was something like $56.00 shipped and some change |
try this link:
RockAuto Parts Catalog |
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discount code and phone number to call them if you wish...
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Originally Posted by STWater
(Post 1357842)
Ok ive finally pin pointed that the air mixer is shot. The temperature is now flashing every morning when the bonneville is started and no hot air or very little. Do someone have the link with maybe a step by step replacement procedure on a 96 bonneville? I cant seem to find one by doing a search. Thank You in advance.
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I ordered 1571835 but it doesnt look like that one, it has an arm on it that the cable attaches to. I wish I checked the site before I ordered the part to get that discount code, but thank you for trying. I appreciate it. I started troubleshooting the problem im having with the A/C not coming out of the center vents and I found that im getting no vaccuum out of the blue vaccuum line. I noticed that in past posts people have had this issue with the blue vaccuum line. Does anyone have a picture of where this line normally gets clogged or crimped? Every picture I went to look at in past posts had expired. Thanks!
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your going to have to reuse your arm off of your airmix actuator.
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I definitely think I ordered the wrong part #. I think its supposed to be 1571923 with all the electronic A/C controls. Or will they both work with it?
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Originally Posted by STWater
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I definitely think I ordered the wrong part #. I think its supposed to be 1571923 with all the electronic A/C controls. Or will they both work with it?
They are really good to work with, give them a call in the morning and ask them to cross refferance the numbers of the two actuators to see if they are the same or if at least the one you ordered will work or ask them to send you the correct one. if you call early enough they can stop the first order and fix the problem. I still have my box from them and it is the same number you found. hope it works out for you. Auto Parts Fast at RockAuto service@rockauto.com 1-866-ROCKAUTO |
I ordered it last night and talked to them earlier on the phone and he said they will email me the tracking # and he wasnt sure if it shipped yet. Im gona call them first thing in the morning. Im just going nuts with this car right now b/c im selling the car next week to someone from my work and im trying to straighten out all the little gremlins in it before it goes.
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Originally Posted by toddster
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your going to have to reuse your arm off of your airmix actuator.
......looking for photos Did you ever find the photo of where the blue vacuum line gets clogged? |
no not yet sorry. but have read others comments about at least taking a look at the 'nipples' to verify that they are good. this way you can at least rule them out until then.
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I will inspect the nipples then get back to you.... wait that actually sounds like fun lol. I tried to stop that order from being shipped but I was a day late so im gona rip out that actuator and see how close they are to eachother. You have any personal tips for changing this out that I havent read in the other posts?
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yep, it's easer to do if you take out the passenger seat. 4 bolts and some small trim pieces, disconnect the harness and pull the seat out. this way you can lay on your back and work a bit easier down there.
But the number one thing you need to do first is make sure you disconnect the battery, pull the airbag fuse wait about ten minutes and than disconnect the airbag from the harness under the dash when your over there. This way you wont risk blowing off the system when your under there, or damage the airbag. |
Heres a question for ya. Now that I finally pulled out my actuator I have a question about the one I ordered. I currently have a 16141822 Actuator, but I ordered the 16124942. I found in a post that the 16124942 has more electronics inside, but with only one extra pin on 7. The harness is still the same tho. Would the 16124942 still work on this do you think?
Check this link out and so what you guys think https://www.gmforum.com/t247279/ |
I would call rockauto and run the part number you bought with your cars info. they should be able to give you a definite answer.
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The same exact thing happened with me yesterday. I'll try that actuator temporary rod fix. Any other suggestions.
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Originally Posted by nlucas
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The same exact thing happened with me yesterday. I'll try that actuator temporary rod fix. Any other suggestions.
depending on your resources we can get you going again. do you want results with a quick fix to get you through the winter or do you want it done right, right away? And welcome to the club;) Todd. |
Thanks. There was a post on Dec 11th by STWATER and I have the exact same problem. I would like both solutions a quick fix for now and I'll fix it permanently when the weather is warmer. I have had this problem for two years now, heat all summer long :)
Thanks Todd |
Originally Posted by nlucas
(Post 1358174)
Thanks. There was a post on Dec 11th by STWATER and I have the exact same problem. I would like both solutions a quick fix for now and I'll fix it permanently when the weather is warmer. I have had this problem for two years now, heat all summer long :)
Thanks Todd so get rippen your glove box apart.....jk at least you have heat. |
Actually no it changed to cold air on wednesday.
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Originally Posted by nlucas
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Actually no it changed to cold air on wednesday.
i still need to find a pic of the whole we are talking about that will let you see the top of the actuator to pop up the rod. its on the left side once you have taken out the liner. shine a light over there you should see what i'm describing. |
It's funny though I spoke with a GM ac tech and he is convinced that it's the sensor that sits in front of the rad that detects the temp outside that is causing the problem.
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I just took out the glove box liner and i can't see that actuator rod.
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Thanks Todd. I was doing it outside in the dark with a flashlight. I'll do it tomorrow during the day. I also realise that my compressor and the cooling fans are not coming on. Do you think this is part of the problem also?
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Originally Posted by nlucas
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Thanks Todd. I was doing it outside in the dark with a flashlight. I'll do it tomorrow during the day. I also realise that my compressor and the cooling fans are not coming on. Do you think this is part of the problem also?
i know i'm off by a little on the numbers but close. |
glove box liner:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...eage/GLOVE.jpg liner taken out...look through the hole on the left: http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...age/VENTIN.jpg photos borrowed from other member... |
Thanks for the info on the compressor and fans. So I am suppose to just push the the door to the right for full heat or disconnect the rod altogether? I am going to use a metal hanger.
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How did you guys fix your nipples??? lol being serious here. When I pulled the vaccuum plug off I can see the the soft nipples are sucking closed. Is it ok If I just take off the very tip of the nipple off so that it doesnt suck closed so easily? How did you guys fix it? Thanks.
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God morning Todd. Do i have to take the actuator rod off or can I just pull on it just to movr the door.
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Originally Posted by nlucas
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Thanks for the info on the compressor and fans. So I am suppose to just push the the door to the right for full heat or disconnect the rod altogether? I am going to use a metal hanger.
sometimes works sometimes not. If I where you I would disconnect the rod from the actuator so you have heat. But here is a little test to make for sure your actuator is broken. With the arm/rod still attached to the actuator, try moving the arm of the actuator right to left..with the rod still attached. If it moves freely than yes your air mix actuator has a broken gear and does need replacing. If you cannot move the arm than something else failed. |
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