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1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

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Old 02-09-2004, 01:57 PM   #11
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That'* about half the price of stockers. And they have glass lenses as opposed to plastic.

I'm running the Cyber-white navigators. The best features are ALL of them. Tempered glass, 55W H3 bulbs, a better reflector design (puts the light where you want it), and they're slightly smaller, which allows more airflow to the bottom of the radiator on the SSE or SSEi.
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That'* about half the price of stockers. And they have glass lenses as opposed to plastic.

I'm running the Cyber-white navigators. The best features are ALL of them. Tempered glass, 55W H3 bulbs, a better reflector design (puts the light where you want it), and they're slightly smaller, which allows more airflow to the bottom of the radiator on the SSE or SSEi.

I have the Navigators. I could not say it better.
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That'* about half the price of stockers. And they have glass lenses as opposed to plastic.

I'm running the Cyber-white navigators. The best features are ALL of them. Tempered glass, 55W H3 bulbs, a better reflector design (puts the light where you want it), and they're slightly smaller, which allows more airflow to the bottom of the radiator on the SSE or SSEi.
No angel eye ring bud. < Kinda like that.

The Hella Optilux Angel Eyes, are BRIGHT. Can be used as your only lights, and you'd be fine.
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hi

i wish there was an upgrade for my weak fogs on my LSS.

I just replaced a bulb tonight, and was very surprised to find a H1-55w in there as the book calls for an 880 for my year.

The wally application computer said the H1 wasnt used until '99, and previous years was 880.
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For those who replaced the stockers....did you guys use the factory wiring (i.e. cut off the 880 connector) or did you use the switch that came with the aftermarket lights? I'd like to use the factory wiring if I could just to save some time....I know the factory bulbs are 21W (or somewhere along those lines) versus a 55W for aftermarket. That kind of concerns me. But if things are on a relay (which sounds like the factory ones are) I might be OK....thoughts?
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smoe people have used the factory wiring with the Navigators and some used the ones included with the lights. on the other hand some have used the factory wiring with the angel eyes and then wired up the halo to the parking lights, and some ran new wiring for hte angel eyes that came with the lights.

there have no problems with the stock wiring using the 55W bulb
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For those who replaced the stockers....did you guys use the factory wiring (i.e. cut off the 880 connector) or did you use the switch that came with the aftermarket lights? I'd like to use the factory wiring if I could just to save some time....I know the factory bulbs are 21W (or somewhere along those lines) versus a 55W for aftermarket. That kind of concerns me. But if things are on a relay (which sounds like the factory ones are) I might be OK....thoughts?
I used the aftermarket harness, relay, in-line fuse, and switch that came with my Navigators, but you shouldn't have any problem using the stock wiring. The factory fogs on mine were 38W or so, drawing about 3A each; a 55W lamp will draw about 4.2A (assuming a battery voltage of about 13V). When I looked at the stock wiring, I estimated it was probably about 18AWG stranded or so. 18AWG should handle 10A with no problem, 15A with no problem if it'* not bundled and in open air.

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Keep in mind, when you turn on your highs normally, your fog light power is killed. If you wire them up with supplied harnesses, you can run both driving lights, and high beams.
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I have Street Glow super blue 885'*. they are really blue/white when warmed up, and brite. but the last time i went to the place i got them they didnt have anymore. I put the new bonneville housing on because my old fog light housings where all banged up.
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18AWG should handle 10A with no problem, 15A with no problem if it'* not bundled and in open air.
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Said like a person who deals with electical code every once in a while. Especially that part about free air.

For what its worth...I agree.
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