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Old 09-14-2006, 01:00 PM   #11
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The tech-help at actron also suggested selecting engine type "1" I tried that and still got no communication. Should the tool be hooked up prior to turning the key to on or should the key be turned on and then the tool connected. I think I already tried both ways with no luck.
Tool should be hooked up prior to turning the key on. So, after selecting engine type "1", try turning the key off for 10 seconds then turning the key on. After that, try starting the car and see what happens. What part of CA are you from?
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1995 Bonneville SSE

I recently purchased an Actron CP9145 Super AutoScanner which, as their website states, is one of the ones required to read the engine codes however I still can not communicate. Actron service tech has yet to be helpful or shed any light onto the problem.

Driving home from work check engine light came on and car feels as though it has a miss, checked all sparkplug wires with inductive pickup and they all appear to be getting a signal. Plugs, wires, and O2 sensor changed ~1-2 years ago. Would love to be able to read the engine code to point me in a direction.

Also have the problem with the car shutting off while driving, will not start for what appears to be random amounts of time - sometimes 5 minutes sometimes 3 days. Would this still indicate a crank position sensor problem since it does not appear to be heat related?

Temperature display on climate control flashes for like a minute or so when key is turned on and/or car is started and then stays on, asked dealer and was told to wait until it completely fails as trouble shooting would cost more than car is worth. By the way AC is not working I believe it to be an interlock somewhere. It does hold a charge and I believe the compressor and clutch to be in working order.

Driver information center blinks in and out causing trip mileage etc. to reset, plus the occasional loud obnoxious noise emitted from one of the rear speakers.

Seems like a bunch of electrical issues, maybe the ground connect under the carpet? Water leak on passenger rear side, carpet gets very wet and am not sure where it is coming from although suspect the rear window.

Sorry for the long post.
Help to any or all of my issues would be greatly appreciated....Anyone want to buy a car?
First, the CP9145 will and better read the 95 Bonneville with the OBD2 Cable... Ofcourse you'll have to tell it the year, make and model and engine...

Turn the ignition on and proceed, it should look for codes, at which point you should be able to arrow down and view them... From there you should be able to View Data, you will want to look for Group 1 Data...

The stalling is a hard thing to check on... Could be everything from the PCM to the ICM or even the crank sensor...

But we need to know if the PCM is getting a Crank sensor code or Cam/Crank error codes...

If you were to start the car and let it idle( cold start ) with the car idle for extended periods of time or just die? If it restarts, will it shortly stall out again?

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I keep getting confused with the OBD scanners, I thought the CP9145 was a OBD 11 scanner and you needed a OBD1 (CP9110) with the proper cable to read 95'*? Can you help clarify jr's3800.
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Another thing to do, is to try hooking up the CP9145 to another car that is OBD II, just to insure the scantool is working (could be your car or a buddy'* car...GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc.). Check the pins on each part of the cable/tool to make sure there are no bent or broken pins, as well.
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I keep getting confused with the OBD scanners, I thought the CP9145 was a OBD 11 scanner and you needed a OBD1 (CP9110) with the proper cable to read 95'*? Can you help clarify jr's3800.
The CP9145 will read everything the 9110 will read, but the CP9145 does not have cards you plug into them... The 9145 is self contained.. All you need is the proper cable, as well the CP9145 will read OBD2 codes( Generic Data Only, will not read enhanced data )

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I keep getting confused with the OBD scanners, I thought the CP9145 was a OBD 11 scanner and you needed a OBD1 (CP9110) with the proper cable to read 95'*? Can you help clarify jr's3800.
The CP9145 will read everything the 9110 will read, but the CP9145 does not have cards you plug into them... The 9145 is self contained.. All you need is the proper cable, as well the CP9145 will read OBD2 codes( Generic Data Only, will not read enhanced data )
thanks for the info jr's3800
Do the CP9145 OBD 11 scanners come with everything to read the 95 or do you have to purchase a seperate cable like with the CP9110? How new year of a Bonneville will it read? Eg. year 2000 and higher or just up to 1999?
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I keep getting confused with the OBD scanners, I thought the CP9145 was a OBD 11 scanner and you needed a OBD1 (CP9110) with the proper cable to read 95'*? Can you help clarify jr's3800.
The CP9145 will read everything the 9110 will read, but the CP9145 does not have cards you plug into them... The 9145 is self contained.. All you need is the proper cable, as well the CP9145 will read OBD2 codes( Generic Data Only, will not read enhanced data )
thanks for the info jr's3800
Do the CP9145 OBD 11 scanners come with everything to read the 95 or do you have to purchase a seperate cable like with the CP9110? How new year of a Bonneville will it read? Eg. year 2000 and higher or just up to 1999?
It will read the mass majority of the Data on the 87-95 Bonneville.... The tool will read the 96+ Bonnies as well, But for the OBD2 it will pretty much just pull codes... It will not read the OBD2 Enhanced Data.... For the OBD2 or 96 and later bonnies this tool is just about junk... I Like my CP9110 better for the 87-95'*... But the 9145 will serve the same function if thats what you are looking to do...

The Next tool I buy will have nothing to do with Actron

The CP9145 will come with an OBD2 cable that will read the 94-95 Bonnevilles....

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The reason I was asking is.......I need one for the 95, but I know it will only last about 5 years. I will then try to purchase a 2000 model year and was hoping the scanner would service both years. I just can't win today, it'* ok though since I didn't purchase it.

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I never know when it is going to stall out, appears to be totally random. Usually it goes weeks to months with no problem and then all of the sudden it will either die while driving it or it just will not start, could be first thing in the morning or after driving it for awhile. Temperature does not seem to come into play. The engine always cranks fine but won't start. When it dies and will not re-start I have found that there is no spark.

Prior to the engine light coming on while driving home the car always idles OK, maybe a little rough but not like the miss that it feels like it has now. No check engine light ever came on when the car suddenly stops running. I was hoping that when the light finally came on (drive home) that maybe it would point me to the problem with the car stalling. At this time it almost seems like it is two different issues.

Actually there is one more thing I forgot to mention... engine cooling fan does not turn on either. It runs briefly (few revolutions) when car is started and then never turns on again. Figured the fan temp switch is probably faulty and is maybe by-passed on initial start up.

Actron support requested the FW/SW version of the tool, said it may be an older version that had a bug. Just bought it a few days ago so unless it has been sitting around for awhile on the stores shelf I find this highly unlikely.
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