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1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

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Old 04-17-2008, 10:58 PM   #11
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Could you check to see if you have any codes? On your year, all you need is a bare, metal paper clip and the instructions. You can find picture, and links to procedure and code interpretation on this thread
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...902&highlight=
It also has "short and sweet" procedure further down in it.
There can be so many causes for your symptom. Knowing the code(*) if there are any makes all the difference.
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Check your EGR Valve for Anyleak if the car is not keeping it'* own idle ! For Starting check your Starter, if it doe'* : Click Click Click, it'* cause you have not enough power from your battery but you solved the charge probleme, check your terminals on the Starter and maybe replace the Starter for your starting problem ! For Shifting check if your TCC is good !
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hello... thanks for all the help so far, but the state of my bonny has seemed to regress since I last played with it. now with the new battery and alternator, it no longer starts or cranks. There is only a single "click", but nothing happens.

I tried checking for codes, but all I got were diagnostic "12"*.

So I am beginning to think this is an issue with the starter. For 'starters', I don't even know where the thing is found. Do I have to jack up my car to access this? I will try the lamp test as others have mentioned, but I don't know where to test the wires to the starter.

Also, I am unsure how to test if my engine is seized. I tried pulling on the serpentine belt, but it doesn't budge, and the bolt on the alternator is too big for any of my wrenches to turn. How else can I do this? Thanks!
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A reasonable next step for troubleshooting would be to check things we already told you to check, which you have not reported a status on, if you have checked them.. Please check battery cables and ground connection for corrosion. You can hook up an engine starter or jumper cables from a working car to temporarily supply power to try and start the car. Corroded battery cables are quite common. You're having starting troubles. Test them.
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i've cleaned off the battery cable leads as best as i could with baking soda and water. underneath the plastic housing, i haven't seen any corrosion. but i haven't specifically checked underneath the insulation on the cables, as this would mean i would have to cut into the insulation. should i do this and just tape it back up again?
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ok just so you know what i'm talking about... do i have to get a knife and cut into the cable to determine if it'* corroded? people have said to peel back the insulation. i can peel back the housing, but not the insulation easily...[/img]
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do i have to get a knife and cut into the cable to determine if it'* corroded? people have said to peel back the insulation. i can peel back the housing, but not the insulation easily...[/img]
Yes, you will need to slit it to peel it back.
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It'* typically just the Positive battery cable. Yes, you'll need to slit the insulation to check the cable past the connector. I understand you not wanting to do it, but you can go through a lot of frustrating time and money replacing other things, if what you need is a new battery cable. I went through a new batter, alternator, and starter, when all I needed was a cable.

If your cable is corroded along its length, there'* no amount of cleaning it that will fix it, it will actually require replacing the cable with a new one. I don't think the Bonneville'* positive cable is a simple length that a generic in the auto parts store will replace, I believe you'll need to actually get it from a dealer.

That is of course, if that'* your problem. It might be something else, but you should at least rule this out.
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Hey, something crazy just happened. I slit the connector a bit, and it was fine, so i checked the cable terminals once more and then noticed it had a bit of crud on it, not completely covered, but not clean either. So i took a knife and started scraping it off.

I then started the car, and it started, but all of a sudden, I see my belt flopping around, stopped the car, and noticed there was oil sprayed everywhere. So then I just took the belt off entirely, tried starting again, and then it really didn't sound right, so I stopped the car, and I noticed a HUGE puddle of oil on my driveway.

So, I think something really major died in the engine. Does anyone have an idea what happened? In the picture, near the middle, but to the left a bit there is something with a lot of oil on it that I don't remember seeing before. What is that thing? Did it come from the engine?

So, it doesn't look like an easy fix now...
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Check your oil filter! It is either loose, no o-ring, or it might even have double o-rings (one left from a previous filter)... believe me, experience speaking
BTW, the filter is right next to the belt. So if it "blows," it spews all over the belt; of course, causing it to slip and track and come off. If your hood was up, you probably have it all over the grill, bumper, and hood underside, w/ a pool in the driveway half the size of the car or more. What a mess!
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