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Old 11-17-2004, 05:16 PM   #1
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Ok Im about to put on my lower intake manifold when I see a puddle of coolant under where it goes but am not sure if oil or coolant is supposed to be in that area. Im thinking its the coolant chamber for the engine block but maybe oil goes there Im not sure. My question is does oil or coolant go in the area under the lower intake manifold and if oil goes there what should I do to remove any coolant that is there and that has fallen inside the small holes? Ive bought the oil so if I need to change it thats cool but I dont know how I would get the rest of the coolant that has fallen in some small holes that are in the area. Hopefully coolant goes in that area so I dont have this worry. Another question is how in the hell do I use a torque wrench? Ive never owned one and I suck at car stuff so I dont want to break my lower intake manifold by making things too tight or too loose. Please help me as the instructions that came with it suck *** and dont tell you sh*t. Im following these instructions but I dont know how to torque something to Nm or ft. lbs for that matter.
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Reverse of Removal, Follow these tips:
1. Clean the cylinder block, Heads and intake manifold of all oil with a suitable solvent.
2. Apply RTV Blue to the ends of the manifold seals (GM# 12345336)
3. Clean the intake manifold bolts and bolt holes of adhesive compound.
4. Apply thread lock compound (GM#12345493) or equivalent to the intake manifold bolt threads prior to assembly
5. Tighten the intake manifold bolts twice to 10Nm (88 lb. in) following the sequence in Figure 21. (There'* ten bolts, start in the middle and work your way out clockwise)

Other Torque Specs:
Fuel Rail to Intake Manifold: 15Nm or 11 lb. ft.
Alternator bracket to Cylinder head: 50Nm or 36 lb. ft.
Alternator: 50Nm or 36 lb. ft.
Throttle Body to Intake Manifold: 15Nm or 11 lb. ft.
Throttle Cable Bracket to Throttle Body: 4Nm or 35 lb. in.

Please help me be a better newbie.
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Get the coolant out of there. Use a shopvac or paper towels to get it out. Then change the oil. I don't know if it'* a good idea or not, but you may want to turn the engine over a few times first.

What kind of torque wrench is it? Click, digital, or good ol' dial?
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Im thinking its dial, it has the numbers carved on the sides and the bottom has this turney thing where I guess you set the torque but I have no idea how to read it. Well the whole bottom part of the handle turns and goes up slowly as you turn it.
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Im thinking its dial, it has the numbers carved on the sides and the bottom has this turney thing where I guess you set the torque but I have no idea how to read it. Well the whole bottom part of the handle turns and goes up slowly as you turn it.
That'* a clicker. Pull the end of the handle out, Twist to the correct setting, Push the end back up. Pull until it clicks. Do not rock or jerk on it.



You mean there'* coolant in the big area in the middle of the engine, the area with the metal rods on the sides? Get as much of it out while you can. It probaby fell out of the LIM while you were removing it.
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Yea I know how to adjust the settings but I have no clue what the settings mean and while the instructions show how to set it to whatever Nm and even show Nm numbers on the pictures, the wrench itself doesnt show anything close to what the pictures do and I am stuck at this wrench thing. This wrench is the only thing stopping me from putting everything back together. And yes the coolant is in that big area with the copper looking rods on the sides. Problem is I think some fell in a little hole that I think leads to the actual piston rods themselves so what should I do? Should I get everything back together and maybe let the engine run for a few seconds just so that it all mixes and THEN change the oil or just I soak it up with a rag and then change the oil? A small drop or two shouldnt affect anything too much right? lol
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Yea I know how to adjust the settings but I have no clue what the settings mean and while the instructions show how to set it to whatever Nm and even show Nm numbers on the pictures, the wrench itself doesnt show anything close to what the pictures do and I am stuck at this wrench thing. This wrench is the only thing stopping me from putting everything back together. And yes the coolant is in that big area with the copper looking rods on the sides. Problem is I think some fell in a little hole that I think leads to the actual piston rods themselves so what should I do? Should I get everything back together and maybe let the engine run for a few seconds just so that it all mixes and THEN change the oil or just I soak it up with a rag and then change the oil? A small drop or two shouldnt affect anything too much right? lol
A picture is worth a thousand words man, I have no idea what to tell you about that wrench.

On the coolant, Get every bit you can reach, The small amount that drained to the pan isn't worth a heart attack. Get the car back together, Run it for a half hour or so to heat up the oil and verify correct operation, Then change the oil.
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I think I'll just return this wrench and get one of them dial wrenches or something at SEARS because this one is making me angry. Thanks for the oil tip!
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I think I'll just return this wrench and get one of them dial wrenches or something at SEARS because this one is making me angry. Thanks for the oil tip!
Dial torque wrenches are the least accurate I believe.... Run up to the store and make somebody show you how that puppy works. As expensive as it probably was, You deserve a demostration.
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Youre right, first I have to find the piece that flew off when I took the upper part off lol.
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OK after not being able to figure out how to work the clicker torque wrench I returned it for what I think is a dial wrench and this thing seems very simple to use. I should have the LIM on today as well as a few other pieces and then the upper manifold w/ throttle body and alternator should be put on tomorrow.
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