This is just what i needed, right before a long trip

Lately it has been harder to start my car, I'll turn the key and have to give it some gas for it to start. Today i went for a ride and it did it again, but i had to give a little gas just to stay running right after i started it. Then as i was pulling out of a driveway onto the road i gave it gas and it kinda sputtered, like it wanted to go, and just kinda jerked, and then it was fine, except that my SES light came on :(

Any Ideas?

Get the codes.
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...e=article&k=57
& check the coils if you have a meter.
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...e=article&k=33

Ok got the code: 42 - Electronic Spark Timming Circuit

and i don't have a meter so i can't check the coils.


What does the code 42 mean?

That might be the error where the PCM isn't able to take control of the spark timing from the ICM. While you're waiting for someone else who'* familar with the code I would look over the wiring at the crank sensor & ICM. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

its definetly your ignition coil or your ignition coil module.
i just had the same problem with my car and it was my '' ignition module'' i had the same exact symptoms as you. all of them.

the easiest way to find out is to go to your local junk yard and get another igniton coil for about $18 and then change it with yours. if your problem stops then it was that simple and easy....

but if the problem still occur'* then go back to the junk yard and get a ignition module for about $22 and replace that to fix your problem..

also sometimes a lil electric cleaner put on the clip that geys connected to the ignition module might do alot and get rid of your problem.. try this and let me no...

also check the ground wires under the ignition module that are grounded to the engine- take off grounds and scrape all rust and corrision from your ground ring terminals with a wire brush or sand paper..... this will also help code 42...

here is some VERY helpful links about code 42.. you should read asap.

http://www.troublecodes.net/articles...ndrstd42.shtml

http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/may97/techtips.htm

I'll caution you on the advice above. It'* generally NOT the coils or ICM. The most common failure is a cam or crank sensor. However, it could be:

cam sensor
crank sensor
damage to the interruptor rings on the HB
ICM
associated wiring
PCM

It CANNOT be the coils. It'* absolutely impossible.

Ok is there any more i can do to find out if it is one of those, or am i gonna have to take it to the shop?

Thanks for the help!

i personally think my advice will help find the problem..

i no atleast 12 1992-1999 bonnevilles that had the same problem.. a bad coil or module or a bad mobule ground causing low voltage...

thanks

The ICM and PCM cannot even SEE the coils, much less report them as bad in the form of a code.

A bad coil cannot cause a code 42. You are incorrect.

Alright guys, i tried to ignore it in hopes that it would go away (probably a bad idea )
But it just keeps getting worse. It is harder to start, i have to give it gas just about every time i start it now. And today the SES light came back on, after it sputtered on take off (just like before)
I am unemployed right now so if it is not something that i can fix myself, would it be ok to drive or should i get the bike ready?

Any help would be appreciated, Thanks Guys!!